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According to techpowerup the Twinfrozr III hits 970 on stock volts I am aware that I might need a voltage bump to hit 1 GHZ+ core clock but that isn´t the question.

I want to know if the Twin Frozr III can handle a 1 GHZ + Core clock and 1400MHZ+ Memory clock at load with fair fan setting below 70 degrees.

The only reason I would consider getting 2x ref 6950´s and watercool them would be if they really provided far better overclockability and performance compared to the Twin Frozr III.

TWFIII has better VRM´s etc which will probably result in a better overclock.
But the temps on a watercooled system will be much better of course which is why I could probably increase the voltage more.

So the main questions are :

1.)Can the Twin Frozr III keep the temps below 70C with an overclock of +1 GHZ core and +1400MHZ and a little voltage increase at a fair fan setting?

2.)Does a ref watercooled 6950 deliver better overclockability & performance compared to the TWFIII ?

3.)Can the Twin Frozr III fit reference 6950 waterblocks?

4.)Is it true that the hot exhaust air of the TWFIII isn´t exhausted externally but in the case and circulated which results in the TWFIII sucking in its own hot air?
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Originally Posted by Kung Pow View Post
According to techpowerup the Twinfrozr III hits 970 on stock volts I am aware that I might need a voltage bump to hit 1 GHZ+ core clock but that isn´t the question.

I want to know if the Twin Frozr III can handle a 1 GHZ + Core clock and 1400MHZ+ Memory clock at load with fair fan setting below 70 degrees.

The only reason I would consider getting 2x ref 6950´s and watercool them would be if they really provided far better overclockability and performance compared to the Twin Frozr III.

TWFIII has better VRM´s etc which will probably result in a better overclock.
But the temps on a watercooled system will be much better of course which is why I could probably increase the voltage more.

So the main questions are :

1.)Can the Twin Frozr III keep the temps below 70C with an overclock of +1 GHZ core and +1400MHZ and a little voltage increase at a fair fan setting?

2.)Does a ref watercooled 6950 deliver better overclockability & performance compared to the TWFIII ?

3.)Can the Twin Frozr III fit reference 6950 waterblocks?

4.)Is it true that the hot exhaust air of the TWFIII isn´t exhausted externally but in the case and circulated which results in the TWFIII sucking in its own hot air?

#1) Do not know. But I can tell you this much, my cards do not exceed 45c. Only one time I saw them hit 50c, when temperature outside got to 90F.

#2) I got to 920/1400 on stock volts. Did not try to go any higher. I will try it out tonight.

#3) My guess is not. Will aqua tuning take back open water blocks? I think most place do not. Unless someone here can confirm for sure it will, I would not want to take the risk.

#4) In my humble opinion, that is why I do not like the fancy twin froz cooler for crossfire. They just blow hot air on each other. I believe they blow out rather than suck in (smack me in the head plz if I am wrong!). For a single card setup they are fine in a case with good air flow.

Bottom line, if you are serious about water cooling, just get two reference 6950s or 6970s, install, overclock and forget about it !
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On a side note: Where would you see the difference between 950 and 1000 with 2x6950?
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I will watercool them!

Please tell me which 6950 brand is tested/reviewed/known to be the best overclocker?
I mean sure all ref cards have identical platines but still I would like to know which card out of your and other customers , reviewers and testers oppinion is the best overclocker

I think MSI 6950 is a good overclocker right?

Just recommend me the best ref overclocker of the 6950^^

thx
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I will watercool them!

Please tell me which 6950 brand is tested/reviewed/known to be the best overclocker?
I mean sure all ref cards have identical platines but still I would like to know which card out of your and other customers , reviewers and testers oppinion is the best overclocker

I think MSI 6950 is a good overclocker right?

Just recommend me the best ref overclocker of the 6950^^

thx
best referenced cards are possibly the slightly overclocked asus cards but please check they are referenced before buying(dont go XFX they will definatly be non reference)
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Here are my options:http://geizhals.at/deutschland/?cat=...32_2048#xf_top

All reference cards have the same clocks.
So which brand of 6950 is the best overclocker?

I thought of either the MSI one or ASUS?
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I will watercool them!

Please tell me which 6950 brand is tested/reviewed/known to be the best overclocker?
I mean sure all ref cards have identical platines but still I would like to know which card out of your and other customers , reviewers and testers oppinion is the best overclocker

I think MSI 6950 is a good overclocker right?

Just recommend me the best ref overclocker of the 6950^^

thx
Well, considering all reference design are the same, that will be a hard one to answer. I think I would go with a company that is well known for its RMA process because it seems you may need it

ASUS, Saphire or MSI comes to mind. Although I am very happy with my HIS but do not know a thing about their RMA process and do not want to find out either !
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Cheapest reference card will do. The more expensive ones are expensive solely due to brand name and/or cooling. Since you won't use any of those, go with the cheapest among Asus, Saph, MSI and so.

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go with a company that is well known for its RMA process because it seems you may need it
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post #19 of 34
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Here are my options:http://geizhals.at/deutschland/?cat=...32_2048#xf_top

All reference cards have the same clocks.
So which brand of 6950 is the best overclocker?

I thought of either the MSI one or ASUS?
I LOLed real hard when I saw the HIS turbo edition overclocked to 840 ! How much more are they charging for that? God ! these guys feed off noobs so good. I mean all you do is go to CCC and slide the core and memory to its max, apply, and just forget it.
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These are my choices:http://geizhals.at/deutschland/?cat=...32_2048#xf_top

which should I go with?

XFX is the cheapest by the way.
Edited by Kung Pow - 5/17/11 at 9:44am
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