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post #21 of 34
Get the ref with waterblocks. These cards love the low temps while overclocking.
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Since you are going to push your cards, for 8 more I would go with the MSI. I do not have experience with XFX, but seems they got a bit flaky RMA process.
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post #23 of 34
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So you said the ref 6950´s mildly factory overclocked will probably overclock the best right?
Then most of you recommended ref 6950 from ASUS.

Would that be the card?
http://www.ditech.at/artikel/GPA2G06...html?m=details
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asus have a good service support.go for it
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Oh, she's a beauty. I love ref design. Post back when you get 'em
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post #26 of 34
the twin frozrs will be alot easier to move down the road, you dont have to worry about trying to sell GPU specific blocks.

but w/ GPU overclocks, temps are key to high core clocks w/o artifacts... watercooling would be your best option if your trying to hit some high numbers. As good as the twin frozr coolers are, i dont think you are gonna top a good gpu loop.
    
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post #27 of 34
Man, you've been agonizing over the twin frozr iii for at least a couple months now. I've read most of your posts. I can't believe you're going with something else. By the time you buy your blocks and watercooling supplies, you could have bought 2 msi 6970 lightnings or a 6990. You are not going to beat either of those with dual watercooled 6950s. Your fan noise will still exist just it will be waterblock fan noise. If you like watercooling and look at this as a hobby/challenge, then great. From a practical standpoint, its a bad idea. So what if you can run 1 ghz on a shader unlocked 6950. How much faster is that than what you can do with a lightning or 6990? None. 6990s have cherry picked cores that clock very well. Just beef up the case fans a notch. You can add a 6970 down the road for trifire.

Whatever you do, I hope you're at peace with it and get the results you're looking for. I know where you're coming from as I often overanalyze things to the point where its not fun anymore. Then I set myself up for disappointment. Think of the awesome gaming you're missing while making this decision. Again, i'm not trying to be a jerk, just trying to offer some friendly advice. Good luck!
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post #28 of 34
^^This

My last major build I had 8800GTs with waterblocks. Temps were OKAY and it was quiet minus the noise of the pump and gurgle gurgle when it got a little low however it was totally not worth the expense and PITA factor of maintenance.

I finally got so fed up with draining the system, spilling blood red coolant all over my kitchen and dealing with Algae in the tubes that I pulled the whole system out, dumped my rads, blocks and the whole nine and went back to air.

I swear my new system runs so much cooler than that bad boy and so much easier to deal with. Of course the tech has changed.

I wish you the best and want you to have alot of fun but IMHO watercooling never lives up to expectations. Remember your still at the mercy of the chips and a great chip is great whether it's watercooled or not.

Good Luck
post #29 of 34
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^^This

My last major build I had 8800GTs with waterblocks. Temps were OKAY and it was quiet minus the noise of the pump and gurgle gurgle when it got a little low however it was totally not worth the expense and PITA factor of maintenance.
This does not sound right. Your pump should never get low like that once all air bubbles are out. And you are talking about a PC water cooling pump right? Mine is dead silent. I cannot hear it over the 3 AP-14s that are really quiet themselves. The last pump that I can hear, I sent it back for RMA and got replaced no question asked.

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I finally got so fed up with draining the system, spilling blood red coolant all over my kitchen and dealing with Algae in the tubes that I pulled the whole system out, dumped my rads, blocks and the whole nine and went back to air.

I swear my new system runs so much cooler than that bad boy and so much easier to deal with. Of course the tech has changed.

I wish you the best and want you to have alot of fun but IMHO watercooling never lives up to expectations. Remember your still at the mercy of the chips and a great chip is great whether it's watercooled or not.

Good Luck
Well, using coolant is a big no no. Also, you run a silver coil or some sort of biocide to keep micro-organisms at bay. With due respect, you obviously did not set your water cooling right and now blaming entire concept of water cooling.
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post #30 of 34
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Yeah I am still undecided actually.

Twin Frozr III 6950 CF would cost : 489€
6950 ref + blocks CF would cost:530€

I will go for watercooling.
Also I will leave the ASUS card from earlier because I found the cheapest ref card there is :http://geizhals.at/deutschland/a599142.html

I hope that card the power color 6950 ref will overclock good

What do you think?

I mean all refs are identical but I still hope this particular card will overclock the best
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