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Has anyone used a Trusted Platform Module before?
I have read that a TPM and a finger print scanner are a powerful combination for security.
Never heard of it but will definately be looking into it tonight =]
    
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you could always just password protect a file, then keep a notepad file on the desktop with every character on the keyboard typed in then copy and paste to spell your password, that always messes with keyloggers, even some higher end spy programs that take screen shots because they usually screenshot every 10-60 seconds, too much delay to see what you are doing. At least thats how I beat my brother once.
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^If I am remembering correctly, copying and pasting will defeat the keylogger. Just make a txt file on a DIFFERENT system, name it something 'normal' keep it on the a flash drive and delete on the other computer when done.

don't forget that, cool toy though going to need it because you CANNOT type your pass.
post #44 of 51
Why not use something like Password Gorilla to store your passwords rather then writing them down? It would then only require you to remember one or two passwords to have access to your whole password list. Much more secure then all those passwords you have written down in your wallet.

About the TPM, yes it would work, and would do the job nicely when paired with a Smart Card (not a finger print reader). The gist is you have your Smart Card on you at all times, slap it in to the computer, and log on. There is quite a lot of behind the scenes stuff, but the idea is (if I remember this right) the Smart card is registed to the TPM, and the TPM approves the Smart Card when you plug it in to log on. The advantages are that the TPM is tamper proof and it exists outside the OS. However TPM's are soldered to the motherboard and only available on business line laptops/some business desktops (with VPro tech.).

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you could always just password protect a file, then keep a notepad file on the desktop with every character on the keyboard typed in then copy and paste to spell your password, that always messes with keyloggers, even some higher end spy programs that take screen shots because they usually screenshot every 10-60 seconds, too much delay to see what you are doing. At least thats how I beat my brother once.
That is a terribly inefficient and insecure way of doing things. Passwords are remembered via touch and muscle memory, not mentally. By day 5 out of the 90 days my departments passwords live, I know the passphrase by touch and have now idea of the specifics of it. In addition, what happens when you want to log into windows? or log in quick to check your e-mail? or when some one is looking over your shoulder?

Authentication is through:

Something you have (smart card), Something you are (finger prints), something you know(password).

If you want to enhance security you can combine this into multi-factor authentication. Two factor is the most recommended since it isn't too strenuous. Smart card authenticates to the TPM, and you enter a password to log into windows. Both are required, and without one, you cannot access the system.

About the RSA token, they are neat, but the RSA software is extremely expensive, and is not for consumer use.
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Why dont you just clean the keylogger out? I dont know why you would want a computer that supposedly has a keylogger on it if you do any type of purchasing or banking on it.... Even if you dont think that your flatmate would use it, the power of temptation can be great....
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you could always just password protect a file, then keep a notepad file on the desktop with every character on the keyboard typed in then copy and paste to spell your password, that always messes with keyloggers, even some higher end spy programs that take screen shots because they usually screenshot every 10-60 seconds, too much delay to see what you are doing. At least thats how I beat my brother once.

+rep to you for being smart, but lets face it that WILL DEFO be a time eater.... dont wanna go to that much trouble for them when easy enough to just fork out a bit of cash, then maybe do that for my master password
    
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Has anyone used a Trusted Platform Module before?
I have read that a TPM and a finger print scanner are a powerful combination for security.
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Never heard of it but will definately be looking into it tonight =]

I actually won one of those in a Freebe here on OCN, the guy asked for my shipping address then never sent it.
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I actually won one of those in a Freebe here on OCN, the guy asked for my shipping address then never sent it.
What exactly is a trusted platform module ???
    
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Trusted Platform Module offers facilities for the secure generation of cryptographic keys, and limitation of their use, in addition to a hardware pseudo-random number generator. It also includes capabilities such as remote attestation and sealed storage. "Remote attestation" creates a nearly unforgeable hash key summary of the hardware and software configuration. The extent of the summary of the software is decided by the program encrypting the data. This allows a third party to verify that the software has not been changed. "Binding" encrypts data using the TPM endorsement key, a unique RSA key burned into the chip during its production, or another trusted key descended from it.[3] "Sealing" encrypts data similar to binding, but in addition specifies a state in which the TPM must be in order for the data to be decrypted (unsealed).[4]

A Trusted Platform Module can be used to authenticate hardware devices. Since each TPM chip has a unique and secret RSA key burned in as it is produced, it is capable of performing platform authentication. For example, it can be used to verify that a system seeking access is the expected system.

Generally, pushing the security down to the hardware level in conjunction with software provides more protection than a software-only solution. However even where a TPM is used, a key is still vulnerable while a software application that has obtained it from the TPM is using it to perform encryption/decryption operations, as has been illustrated in the case of a cold boot attack.
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Why dont you just clean the keylogger out? I dont know why you would want a computer that supposedly has a keylogger on it if you do any type of purchasing or banking on it.... Even if you dont think that your flatmate would use it, the power of temptation can be great....
I trust it to just be a bit of fun and perving, bank details arent on the pc but even if they were they wouldnt use them they arent that gutsy... or anywhere near big enough to match me.....

tis all fun and games =]

but im learning a hell of a lot for security =]
    
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