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I may be wrong, but my guess is that this topic is about Nvidia answer to these rumors of new designs?

... just maybe ... smile.gif

Date of the xbit article, 15th May ... Enquirer... 17th May smile.gif
Edited by Pedros - 5/18/11 at 7:45am
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Originally Posted by tx-jose;13536204 
it does run great. The issue with them poping wa with the drivers. If you dont OC them and run them as is you dont run into problems

What about that site that had one blow up at stock with the recommended drivers? As many have said, it's a hardware issue, you can't properly fix hardware issues with software.

Yeah, not all cards will die young from this, but the ones that aren't as good (Remember, no chips are the same and some draw slightly more power or less) may end up blowing up a card without a decent VRM system.
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Originally Posted by JCPUser;13536419 
Not to be rude, but just because 6990 CFX does not work due to PEBKAC does not diminish the cards. There are many people who have those cards and they working just fine.

I prefer Nvidia. If you do too then just cut the crap and say so as well... rather than slamming AMD because you can't get CFX to work.

While a lot of ATI problems are PEBKAC, their dual GPU drivers tend to suck, at least since the HD5970, not sure how HD6990 drivers are but I can see Quadfire being horrible.
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Originally Posted by saulin;13537765 
I have yet to see actual proof of a GTX 590 dying at stock voltage and clocks

I knew you'd post in this as soon as I saw it.

And unless someone sits there running Furmark or 3DMark on a loop with a GPUz shot in the background proving they're running stock speeds.
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Originally Posted by Behemoth777;13541519 
You missed the part about "originally designed". Nvidia is only responsible for making sure no issues occur at their designed specifications. Anything above that through overclocking is not really their problem.

Except if I recall the last thread about this correctly, at least one card did die at stock speeds.

And whether they're responsible for it or not, it's kind of dumb to have a card marketed at enthusiasts or at least the kind of person does overclock without that extra overhead, and besides...You always design products with over-specification unless you're trying to cheap out, it's why we all buy Corsair, Silverstone, etc rather than Shaw, Powong, etc.
Whether they have heaps of overclocking headroom (Like the 580) or just a bit over the normal one, some cards still blew up at low voltages and clocks which makes me think nVidia hasn't done enough overhead for the VRM components they're using.

Whether the cards are popping at stock or not, nVidia cheaped out and that's why the HD6990 is better for most enthusiasts, but this won't effect nVidia much, this card wasn't designed for mass market appeal and to sell heaps, just to get the halo effect on the rest of nVidia's lineup, it failed because while it has generally better performance to the HD6990, enthusiasts everywhere have been left with a sour taste in their mouth from cards blowing up, hopefully this means nVidia learns better with Kepler.
    
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Originally Posted by Masked;13549149 
I will absolutely agree that the card COULD be much better...There's 100% no argument from me, Nvidia cheaped out BUT, the card itself, is far from dead and well worth the $$$ IF software limitations could be removed.

Right now, at stock, I will mostly agree, I feel "we" got jipped...I support that 100% BUT, one thing you and the community need to realize is...The card is locked BECAUSE of samplers/initial users overvolting...This is a problem the 590 COMMUNITY created and Nvidia responded...WE blew up our cards, they swooped in on a white horse and said HELLLLLL NOOOOOOO...YOU SHALL NOT PASS!!!

We are victims of our own stupidity...and as such, the card is locked.

If it could be unlocked...This card is WELL worth the 700$+...850mhz on .97v is possible, I proved that on release day...

This card has a butt-load of potential but, it's being limited 100% by software not the VRM's or the power phases...Software.


there were many people who had their cards blow at stock settings.
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Nvidia is not going to admit that the original 590 had a design flaw. They would lose a ton of money doing this, plus be obligated to replace all 590 cards with possible design problems. They are going to fix it, and if you have trouble with your original 590, you get the 590 that SHOULD have came out in the first place.
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Originally Posted by DaMirrorLink;13555939 
there were many people who had their cards blow at stock settings.

There were an extreme minority.

Asus and EVGA only report having 50 or less RMA's.

That's not many considering how many were sold.
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Originally Posted by Masked;13556302 
There were an extreme minority.

Asus and EVGA only report having 50 or less RMA's.

That's not many considering how many were sold.

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OFC nvidia will never accept that there was a fault design. hence they will most likely release a new revision under a new name *hint hint* gtx 595
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Originally Posted by Brutuz;13556382 
Source link?
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Originally Posted by DaMirrorLink;13555939 
there were many people who had their cards blow at stock settings.

Ignoring Masked's claim for a second, the burden of proof is on the shoulders of the claimer.

I have seen one user Raziel from this forums who says his card burned at stock. None of which can even be proved, but I will take his word.

I have seen about 6 or 7 different burnt cards all from different vendors. For all those these that were burned, while tragedies, seem like such a small amount compared to the hundreds sold. I know EVGA are up to 300 (I just saw someones unboxing with the serial 3xx something.)
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Originally Posted by goldboy;13556419 
OFC nvidia will never accept that there was a fault design. hence they will most likely release a new revision under a new name *hint hint* gtx 595

If you think my weak 590 is anything compared to the ARES, you are delusional. The monster that is the 590 ARES would be most powerful video card on the face of the EARTH and to call it a revision is just so inaccurate, you could be programming the MARS rovers in metric while calculating & planning in feet.
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Originally Posted by DaMirrorLink;13555939 
there were many people who had their cards blow at stock settings.

source?
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I was referring to Nvidia's reports that there will be no gtx 590 revision. Instead they will most likely release a new card with 3x2gb Vram. And other improvements.

OFC I know that the Asus Ares Mars gtx 595 will be a monster. But so will the pricetag
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