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Eh. I'm not defending the platform... but, being totally honest I have a feeling that the bigger "Threat" is probably going to be user stupidity.

Informed users can generally avoid most pitfalls of any given device because, they are aware and they care and know what to do/not do.

I mean all platforms have security problems.. the real question is who cares vs. who doesn't care.

With that said.. google does disappoint me a bit with all of this.. Ah well.
You can't avoid something updated in 2.3.4 if your phone manufacturer didn't release it!
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You can't avoid something updated in 2.3.4 if your phone manufacturer didn't release it!
There is always the option of using 3g data over your phone instead of wifi and no connecting "Joe's Random Wifi" network.

Part of the reason why I am not (really) worried here is because anytime You connect to wifi you run the risk of having a wifi network spoofed and being hit by a Man in the Middle attack.

If the MitM attack spoofs credentials people can access your information and you will be warned..

But, most users aren't going to realize this.

"There was an error with the security certification do you wish to continue anyway" the device will warn you.

"I just want to go to my bank!" the unsuspecting victim will reply to their machine.

And bam information lost.

The point I am trying to make with this is that realistically.. "average jo" is screwed because, I feel safe in saying the majority of people out there don't know/understand what a MitM attack is.

does the information not being encrypted make it a bit easier to access? yes.

does it really make the entire situation that much more dangerous?

I think thats up for grabs.

Being uninformed in the digital age about security is about as safe as barebacking a 5$ prostitute.

How do we the tech savvy avoid it? we either A. root and install 2.3.4 if available. Or B. We avoid public wifi...

There is almost always a work around.

The question is what is the problem? how do we dance around it until its fixed?
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Hopefully Google will instate a forced update schedule so that manufacturers can't just release a phone and refuse to update it. Running CM7 on my incredible (going to flash a 2.3.4 nightly in a bit) while the stock rom is still 2.2.
    
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Why the hell would 'sometimes' the phone send these in plain text, wifi or not?

That really affects the whole chain between the phone and the end server, anyone in between at any point could easily grab this.

At least there's already a fix, but that's a gigantic design oversight to not force encryption.
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Hopefully Google will instate a forced update schedule so that manufacturers can't just release a phone and refuse to update it. Running CM7 on my incredible (going to flash a 2.3.4 nightly in a bit) while the stock rom is still 2.2.
I was thinking I don't want an out right "forced update" schedule.. but, I do want a system of checks and balances.

Like for rooting/flashing to not void your warranty.

(Spare me the lectures on how "dangerous" it is, installing linux doesn't void my hard drive warranty by contrast, overclocking does.. so I propose as long as the equipment isn't being pushed out of physical spec, there should be no warranty related repercussion.)
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Rule #1 in cell phone's...don't login to important stuff...such as bank accounts..all i do is login to forums on my phone..lol
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Is that it?

Do you really want people tampering with your info?
Well I dont use gmail, google contacts or the google calender, so like I said....


Is that it?
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This is why I'm sticking with iphones for some years yet. Android is fairly new to the market, and google still has to work out their privacy bugs/issues they've been having the past few years.
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Well I dont use gmail, google contacts or the google calender, so like I said....


Is that it?

Effecting you and being important are two different things.

I don't have an android phone yet I find this extremely important information.
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I never said it wasnt important, I just want to understand exactly what this effects, and if it effects me.

As far as I can tell it doesnt effect me, but im not sure, hence im asking.
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