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Hey guys,

So, hokay! I'm building my first gaming computer and I'm pretty new to this. I've been searching around several forums and blogs the last couple weeks in effort to locate the best parts for the computer I plan to build. After weeks of research I've decided to join this forum since most of my queries reference me to answers located on this forum

My budget is going to be around 1000$ and will have to include everything necessary to run this rig. I intend to do some heavy gaming and perhaps learn to overclock my pc if necessary (which I will have to to additional research on in the near future )

My recent research has led me to the following parts which I intend to use unless one of you pro's can convince me otherwise:

CPU:
Intel Core i5 2500K Quad Core Unlocked Processor LGA1155 3.3GHZ Sandy Bridge 6MB - $220.25

Motherboard:
ASUS P8P67 Pro REV3.0 ATX P67 LGA1155 DDR3 3PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 2PCI Sandy Bridge B3 Motherboard - $175.24

GPU
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 570 OC Fermi 780MHZ 1.28GB 3.8GHZ GDDR5 2XDVI Mini HDMI PCI-E DX11 Video Card - $347.49

Case
Coolermaster Storm Scout Black ATX Tower Case 5X5.25 5X3.5INT 120MM & 140MM Red LED Fan No PSU - $92.00

PSU
OCZ ModXStream Pro 700W ATX 20/24PIN SLI Ready Modular Cables 135mm Fan 80PLUS Power Supply - $75.94

Memory
G.SKILL Ripjaws X F3-10666CL9D-8GBXL 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1333 CL9-9-9-24 Memory - $75.81

CPU Cooler
Zalman CNPS9500 AT Heatsink 92MM Fan LGA1156 1155 1366 775 1300-2650RPM 18-27.5DBA - $36.53

HDD
Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB SATA3 6GB/S 7200RPM 64MB Cache 3.5IN Dual Proc Hard Drive Oem - $65.23


And that's it. Also, I have a couple questions which I could not find an answer for. Perhap's someone can help me:

1) If I am using a dedicated graphic's card, is it necessary to get the CPU cooler I have listed? As I understand, the CPU will get super hot if being used to run the graphics during gaming. Could I not just use the default cooler that comes bundled with the CPU instead?

2) Is the graphics card I selected worth the price? I was thinking of maybe getting the GTX 560 and save like 100 bucks instead.

3) Will my computer be 'bottlenecked'? I've read alot of people talking about this and am not really sure what it means.

Let me know what you guys think about my decisions; again, I am completely new to this so any constructive criticism helps! Also, let me know if I am missing any important details that might be beneficial during construction of this rig.

Thanks in advance!
    
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Personally, I'd ditch that cooler. I'd get a Cooler Master 212+.
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1) If I am using a dedicated graphic's card, is it necessary to get the CPU cooler I have listed? As I understand, the CPU will get super hot if being used to run the graphics during gaming. Could I not just use the default cooler that comes bundled with the CPU instead?
It is not necesseary. With aftermarket you'll likely have better overclocks and/or a more silent system.

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2) Is the graphics card I selected worth the price? I was thinking of maybe getting the GTX 560 and save like 100 bucks instead.
It depends on the resolution you play at. I personally wouldn't spend that much on a GTX 570, I'd either get a GTX 560, HD 6950 or something else.

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3) Will my computer be 'bottlenecked'? I've read alot of people talking about this and am not really sure what it means.
There's always some bottleneck which holds you back even if it's just for e-peen. But you're new processor won't bottleneck your gpu, if it's that what you mean.

Note: You may want to get an SSD in the future.
    
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It is not necesseary. With aftermarket you'll likely have better overclocks and/or a more silent system.
Sorry, I really have to call you out on this one. It is absolutely necessary to get aftermarket cooling if you get that chip. Honestly. It is beyond being "worth" the small investment to pick up a CM 212+ to help cool a chip that is UNLOCKED and MEANT TO BE OVERCLOCKED. If you don't want to overclock and you want to stick with stock cooling (ew, gross), then don't get the K version. Or, you can keep the stock cooling with the unlocked chip and hit a fraction of your potential because you're hitting a temp wall.
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I would agree - spending $30 to allow ~1Ghz more overclock headroom is definitely worth it. Not to mention cooler temps do nothing but increase the longevity of a chip.
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Hey guys,

So, hokay! I'm building my first gaming computer and I'm pretty new to this. I've been searching around several forums and blogs the last couple weeks in effort to locate the best parts for the computer I plan to build. After weeks of research I've decided to join this forum since most of my queries reference me to answers located on this forum

My budget is going to be around 1000$ and will have to include everything necessary to run this rig. I intend to do some heavy gaming and perhaps learn to overclock my pc if necessary (which I will have to to additional research on in the near future )

My recent research has led me to the following parts which I intend to use unless one of you pro's can convince me otherwise:

CPU:
Intel Core i5 2500K Quad Core Unlocked Processor LGA1155 3.3GHZ Sandy Bridge 6MB - $220.25

Motherboard:
ASUS P8P67 Pro REV3.0 ATX P67 LGA1155 DDR3 3PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 2PCI Sandy Bridge B3 Motherboard - $175.24

GPU
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 570 OC Fermi 780MHZ 1.28GB 3.8GHZ GDDR5 2XDVI Mini HDMI PCI-E DX11 Video Card - $347.49

Case
Coolermaster Storm Scout Black ATX Tower Case 5X5.25 5X3.5INT 120MM & 140MM Red LED Fan No PSU - $92.00

PSU
OCZ ModXStream Pro 700W ATX 20/24PIN SLI Ready Modular Cables 135mm Fan 80PLUS Power Supply - $75.94

Memory
G.SKILL Ripjaws X F3-10666CL9D-8GBXL 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1333 CL9-9-9-24 Memory - $75.81

CPU Cooler
Zalman CNPS9500 AT Heatsink 92MM Fan LGA1156 1155 1366 775 1300-2650RPM 18-27.5DBA - $36.53

HDD
Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB SATA3 6GB/S 7200RPM 64MB Cache 3.5IN Dual Proc Hard Drive Oem - $65.23


And that's it. Also, I have a couple questions which I could not find an answer for. Perhap's someone can help me:

1) If I am using a dedicated graphic's card, is it necessary to get the CPU cooler I have listed? As I understand, the CPU will get super hot if being used to run the graphics during gaming. Could I not just use the default cooler that comes bundled with the CPU instead?

2) Is the graphics card I selected worth the price? I was thinking of maybe getting the GTX 560 and save like 100 bucks instead.

3) Will my computer be 'bottlenecked'? I've read alot of people talking about this and am not really sure what it means.

Let me know what you guys think about my decisions; again, I am completely new to this so any constructive criticism helps! Also, let me know if I am missing any important details that might be beneficial during construction of this rig.

Thanks in advance!
Nice setup Although i would swith the hdd to a samsung spinpoint f3 1tb drive instead.

As for your gpu yes the 570 is a great card you could save some $$ and get the 560ti and overclock it to match.

If your after a zalman cooler get the NPS9900 MAX, It holds my 2500k 70c - 75c @ 5ghz so will be more than enough, Don't bother with the 212+ it may hold back your overclock due to high temps. The 212 is a great cooler for it's price but not upto the cooling capabilities of the more expensive coolers
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post #7 of 15
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Thank's for your replies, keep them coming. I'm looking into your suggestions now. I'm also looking into merging both of my thread's. :S my appologies for double posting!
    
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Correct. A Samsung F3 1TB would be cheaper than that Caviar Black and have around the same performance and more HDD space.
post #9 of 15
Hello!

I am very glad to give you my opinion on your build! I think your build is very good for a budget build of $1000. The CPU, MOBO, RAM, HDD, PSU everything is top notch!

I was in the same position like you when I did my first build as well. I went with a SCOUT and 700W as well. My graphic card was a ATI 5850 though.

Honestly everything looks great in your build. However, the only thing I would change is the cooler. Althought the Zalman 9500 cools well, it might not be up to the H50 when overclock, so its probably a good idea to upgrade now. I would definitely recommend the h50. It cools my i7 at stock speeds (NO OVERCLOCK) at 22C. Thats 70 F outside! Thats cool! When I play Starcraft 2, since its a CPU intensive game, the temps only go up to 24C. I was so amazed! You'll love the h50.

In addition, about your graphic card decision. The GTx 570 will be a better performer, but here are the difference between the 570 and 560.

For games like BBC2 you see a 10 FPS increase from 49 FPS(GTX 460) to 59 FPS (GTX570) But for some open world games, Just Cause 2, you will only see a difference of 4 frames. In terms of power, the GTX 570 will consume 40 watts more than 560. To make things short, you'll only experience a 20-25% increase when upgrading from a 560 to 570.

If I were you I would save the 100. And go Sli in the future. Oh, and dont worry about your computer bottlenecking! You should be fine! Good luck and let me know if you need anything else!
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Hello!

I am very glad to give you my opinion on your build! I think your build is very good for a budget build of $1000. The CPU, MOBO, RAM, HDD, PSU everything is top notch!

I was in the same position like you when I did my first build as well. I went with a SCOUT and 700W as well. My graphic card was a ATI 5850 though.

Honestly everything looks great in your build. However, the only thing I would change is the cooler. Althought the Zalman 9500 cools well, it might not be up to the H50 when overclock, so its probably a good idea to upgrade now. I would definitely recommend the h50. It cools my i7 at stock speeds (NO OVERCLOCK) at 22C. Thats 70 F outside! Thats cool! When I play Starcraft 2, since its a CPU intensive game, the temps only go up to 24C. I was so amazed! You'll love the h50.

In addition, about your graphic card decision. The GTx 570 will be a better performer, but here are the difference between the 570 and 560.

For games like BBC2 you see a 10 FPS increase from 49 FPS(GTX 460) to 59 FPS (GTX570) But for some open world games, Just Cause 2, you will only see a difference of 4 frames. In terms of power, the GTX 570 will consume 40 watts more than 560. To make things short, you'll only experience a 20-25% increase when upgrading from a 560 to 570.

If I were you I would save the 100. And go Sli in the future. Oh, and dont worry about your computer bottlenecking! You should be fine! Good luck and let me know if you need anything else!
Thanks for your suggestions! I think I'll take your consideration and use the money toward a Solid State Harddrive as many others have suggested!
    
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