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post #1 of 22
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So I just sold most all my signature system and was going to combine parts of my media center/TiVo server PC and just have a single system since I don't do much for PC gaming anymore, but while transferring parts to build the combined system I dropped a small needle nosed pliers onto my P5N7A-VM and smoked it. 1st time I ever did anything like that.redface.gif So I decided to sell my other Core 2 CPU and go SB. I'm a little bummed about the extra funds going out, but I know I'll be happy in the end.

So here is what I need to be able to run a PCI-E dual tuner card. Also, I want to be able to run SLI with my GTX-260s. I also want the Z68 for obvious reasons. I also want the smallest form factor as possible; tired of lugging around a monster case! I already picked out the LIAN LI PC-Q08 which I will probably add in a CORSAIR CWCH60 Hydro Series H60 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler. I may decide to run a better single VGA later so I can run my Fatality card.

I have a couple questions about these two motherboards. In fact, I may even wait for the Maximus IV Gene-z if it isn't too much more expensive. It will be available at the end of the month.

1) Does the Z68 chip on these boards have the ability to shut off the discrete VGA(s) under less demanding tasks like the full sized ATX versions do even though there are onboard video ports?
2) Does the Gigabyte GA-Z68MX-UD2H-B3 allow SLI on either of the two lower PCI-E slots(3rd or 4th)? If So, I would be able to put the Tuner card on the 3rd slot since the Lian Li case has five expansion slots.
3)Does the ALC892 chipset have software which allows recording "what you hear" like Creative X-fi Titanium Fatality cards do? I need this for Skype calls among other things. Besides, how "good" is the sound on those chips anyways?
4)*** don't manufacturers put wifi capability into these micro ATX boards?! No answer necessary; just venting as I need to also buy a USB wifi device because of this.

Really at this point I'm considering just getting a mini ITX and just putting the tuner card on it. The biggest thing I know I will miss is the unmatched quality of the Fatality sound card. Or does the ALC892 perform well enough?
Edited by Paraleyes - 5/22/11 at 12:52am
post #2 of 22
1. They don't really turn on the discrete GPU's. While the GPU is still pulling power, they are more or less "turned off" but still take power from the wall. & yes. It will have the same options as the ATX Z68 boards.
2. You should, but they will be wired for 8x & 8x unlike 16x & 8x if you used the top two.
3. Unless you're an audiophile, the on-board should be just fine. If not, you could always purchase a after-market sound card.
4. Why not just use Ethernet? But you could always buy a PCI wireless card. There are very few boards that offer WiFi on the board.
post #3 of 22
Thread Starter 
I have some thinking to do... I'll price it all out both ways and decide. What would the O/Cing differences be between these three MBs?

GA-Z68MX-UD2H-B3
MSI Z68MA-ED55 (B3)
Maximus IV Gene-z
post #4 of 22
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Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor
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I already have the two velociraptors and the other drives on that list. I love them in RAID 0. That is what I used to run. After manufactures start releasing Z68 Mini-ITX boards, I will buy one of those and an SSD to add to the system so I can take advantage of SSD cashing and onboard/discrete GPU switching. Best of both worlds in every way! Can't wait! For now I can only run a single velociraptor due to 4 SATA ports on mini-ITX boards for now. ZOTAC has one with 6 ports, but I don't like the board otherwise. ASUS rules for O/Cing. This setup will work for a couple months, but I can't wait to be able to use my RAID 0 setup again plus the added SSD cashing and GPU switching.

I will be starting a new build thread.
Edited by Paraleyes - 5/22/11 at 12:51am
post #5 of 22
wth are you buying a 2500k and an H67 mobo??
post #6 of 22
Thread Starter 
wth are you asking me that?
post #7 of 22
Personally I would wait for the MIVG. Asus ROG mATX boards are stacked with good stuff..and beef enough power phases, not to worry about CPU selection [unlike some of the other manufacturers mATX selections].

*I have both the MIIIG 1156 and the RIIIG 1366 ...both are amazing little wonders. I have benched a 980x @ 4.8ghz on air and a 655k @ 6.2ghz on LN with these boards. Needless to say, I cant imagine going wrong with the ROG..especially over the other choices. It may be 'more' than you require for this build though..
post #8 of 22
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CL3P20;13592611 
Personally I would wait for the MIVG. Asus ROG mATX boards are stacked with good stuff..and beef enough power phases, not to worry about CPU selection [unlike some of the other manufacturers mATX selections].

*I have both the MIIIG 1156 and the RIIIG 1366 ...both are amazing little wonders. I have benched a 980x @ 4.8ghz on air and a 655k @ 6.2ghz on LN with these boards. Needless to say, I cant imagine going wrong with the ROG..especially over the other choices. It may be 'more' than you require for this build though..
Please refer to my build thead.
post #9 of 22
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Originally Posted by Paraleyes;13592437 
wth are you asking me that?

Probably because a H67 board doesn't allow overclocking, but you listed a i5 2500k which allows overclocking. Get a P67 or Z68 board. Those allow overclocking with the 2500k.

The memory you chose is laptop memory. Need to look for DDR3 240 pin memory.
post #10 of 22
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Originally Posted by Arrowhead;13592762 
Probably because a H67 board doesn't allow overclocking, but you listed a i5 2500k which allows overclocking. Get a P67 or Z68 board. Those allow overclocking with the 2500k.

The memory you chose is laptop memory. Need to look for DDR3 240 pin memory.

He's got a point. Don't get a "K" processor with an H67 chipset.

You should just get a mATX board over mini-ITX if you wanna do the expansions you're thinking about. It'd be less headache in the long run and you still have a SFF system.

However, Arrowhead, he needs the laptop memory for that Mini-ITX board, it only accepts 204pin SO-DIMM.
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