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Originally Posted by Anusha View Post
wth are you buying a 2500k and an H67 mobo??
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Originally Posted by Anusha View Post
because you cannot use the full potential of the CPU with H67. either get a P67 or a Z68. else buy a 2500 non-K.
Hahaha! You guys just don't get it! Here you go again jumping in and blurting out the same thing that has been addressed many times over without reading the thread or doing any real research. The P67 and Z68 are not yet available in mini-ITX! The p67 will not be implemented into any mini-ITX boards because manufacturers are using the Z68 now instead for new developments.

Please go to this link and read the details on the H67 chipset on the recent ASRock and ASUS motherboards.

The capabilities are available in the H67 chipset already. It just depends on which features are turned on. ASRock is a budget brand of ASUS. I looked into it and although it is not listed as such on the details in the ASUS board I chose, it is also supposed to support Intel K-Series Unlocked CPUs like the ASRock board now does. As far I know, these are the only two mini-ITX motherboards available that do this yet. If the ASUS board does not after I was told it would, I will correct this, but the ASRock board clearly states that it does.

Another example of this is how some manufacturers are implementing the Z68 chipset with certain features such as GPU switching available as it is generally known to be while others are "Turned Off" and not available on certain motherboards still with the Z68 chipset. Just because a chipset is generally known for a certain thing, doesn't mean those particular settings are will always be implemented into every single board by every single manufacturer until the end of time.

Referencing this article among many regarding this.


Besides, "It is temporary" and even IF I can only overclock it to 3.7GHz on this board, guess what? I will already have the CPU I need when the Z68 minis come out. NOT buying the K-Series CPU at this point would be the real waste of money. I don't see what the big fuss is you all make about this when the difference between an i5 2500 and an i5 2500K is only $16. Why anyone would NOT buy the K-Series is beyond me. These CPUs last for years. Who knows what I will want to do with it in the future? -And when I clearly state that is is temporary and that I will be buying the 1st fully functional Z68 mini-ITX board that is available...

I'm a paraplegic and moving around my last 60+ pound custom UHAF case was seriously difficult for me. This will be a one of a kind, super small and very nice tidy build when it is all done which I will be able to easily pack around whenever I need to. Hopefully that answers all the questions of why everything on this build. I need small form factor. I want small form factor. I am limited by this. -For now.

So Anusha and others, do you expect me to RMA this 2500K CPU when it arrives and order a boring 2500, because that is essentially what you are implying? Oh and in case you don't get this either, that was a rhetorical question. I already ordered this build and you continue to tell me what I should or shouldn't be ordering for my build both after I posted that I made my order and even after I later changed the title to "Solved". In order to satisfy your perception of which CPU should be in which MB, I would have to RMA this CPU and buy the other at this point which would cost me return shipping AND a restocking fee. -A far cry from the $16 difference between buying a K-Series and a non K-Series CPU. If you would actually read the thead before you post, you would see that I made my order already among other things. As I stated earlier in this thread, "please refer to my build log" in hopes that you guys would let this issue go, there were additional explanations to this there as well.

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Originally Posted by Morizuno View Post
first one to do what?

I had my i5 at 3.8ghz when I could afford air conditioning, and I'm getting a 6950 soon


Cool build, would like to see that new case
Thanks Morizuno! Not the 1st... Just one of the 1st; building a powerful gaming system in a mini-ITX form factor. The lack of options for cases allowing full-sized VGAs and lack of MBs available for O/Cing are why only a few are going this route. I'm doing it before the Z68s are even available in mini-ITX boards yet. But I will be ready for a quick motherboard swap when they come out. I only found a couple other threads in multiple forums of others doing this as well like 'dizzy4' and a couple and hard forum. I believe that as soon as the Z68 mini-ITX boards are released, more and more new people will go this route. I'm not trying to be arrogant here. I only say this because I feel like I have to defend the fact that I'm doing it to so many people.

The case... I'm super excited to check it out too. I'll be posting all kinds of pictures in my build log of the case and my progress on all the little mods I will be doing.

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Originally Posted by p4p3r View Post
No reason to be arrogant. The people are trying to help you here, and they have a point.
It seems like you need knowledge about what you're actually going to buy ...
Again, I'm not trying to be arrogant. I originally inquired about the differences between two micro-ATX boards and after doing the research, I decided on skipping out on SLI and going mini-ITX for my own specific reasons. I figured I would post what I decided and the thread would go away, but here we are. Beyond that, I am just really excited about this build.

Recently found mini-ITX Z68 information:
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Originally Posted by Paraleyes View Post
Promising article found about Gigabyte. They say they will be releasing a mini-ITX Z68 motherboard soon! Here is the article:

http://www.itxgamer.com/news/gigabyt...67-favors-z68/

Also this:
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1595795
Seems like my hopes aren't so far off after all. I'm really hoping at this point that this thread can be CLOSED! For those of you who are actually interested in the build rather than telling me I don't know what I'm doing, it is located here:

Cubitek Mini Tank Mini-ITX Silent Water Cooled Build Log

I would also like to quickly apologize to anyone I may have offended in defending this this purchase. My frustration is based on people posting before reading the thread. Specifically referring to Arrowhead who went out of his way to join the forum in order to tell me the same thing I have been defending all along. On top of that telling me I bought the wrong memory when I didn't.
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Probably because a H67 board doesn't allow overclocking, but you listed a i5 2500k which allows overclocking. Get a P67 or Z68 board. Those allow overclocking with the 2500k.

The memory you chose is laptop memory. Need to look for DDR3 240 pin memory.
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