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Stray away from atoms...sluggish beyond hell.
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post #33 of 52
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Originally Posted by LOL_Wut_Axel View Post
It's an ultra-portable. And for proof, you can find all the reviewers of Atom laptops complaining about the sluggish performance. There's tons to find.

What proof? There's plenty of it, whether it's reviewers or users. And for note taking, it still sucks. It takes around 20 seconds to open Word. If you want to conform with what Intel wanted for Atom users, which is absolutely sluggish performance with good battery life, be my guest.

Also, haters gonna hate.
I'm taking notes with a 10.2" ~1kg MSI Wind U100 Plus (Atom N280 @ 1.66GHz, GMA950, 2GB ram, 6cell battery), just to double check your theory I unplugged my netbook, started a youtube video on 360p and opened word, it took about 3 seconds to open completely. I can get through about 5 hours of class before it dies on me and needs a recharge.

And of course I walk/bike to class (10-15min) because the city decided not to give students a free pass on local transit during spring/summer semester. So this 1kg netbook > my 2.7kg laptop, especially when I'm heading to the library with a huge textbook.
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I'm taking notes with a MSI Wind U100 Plus (Atom N280 @ 1.66GHz and a GMA950), just to double check your theory I unplugged my netbook, started a youtube video on 360p and opened word, it took about 3 seconds to open completely.
Probably because you had opened it before. Do a reboot and start up Word and tell me if it's the same story. The Hard Drives on them are extremely sluggish due to them being made mostly by Toshiba and having low storage density, to the point where a 7200RPM HDD is a huge upgrade in terms of responsiveness. Atom Netbooks are very sluggish. If you don't accept this, you're in denial (probably because you bought one).

And 5 hours of battery life isn't much to brag about, to be honest. You can easily get that with Zacate. Unless you're extremely poor and can't save $50, there's no point in settling for Atom.
    
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Probably because you had opened it before. Do a reboot and start up Word and tell me if it's the same story. The Hard Drives on them are extremely sluggish due to them being made mostly by Toshiba and having low storage density, to the point where a 7200RPM HDD is a huge upgrade in terms of responsiveness. Atom Netbooks are very sluggish. If you don't accept this, you're in denial (probably because you bought one).

And 5 hours of battery life isn't much to brag about, to be honest. You can easily get that with Zacate. Unless you're extremely poor and can't save $50, there's no point in settling for Atom.
But I always have it opened before, I keep it on sleep when I'm not using it.

Yes the hard-drive is Toshiba, I understand purchasing denial and try to avoid it and I'm testing your reboot theory now. 5 hours isn't great, but it's enough for me and that's what I could find at the time.

I've never heard of Zacate, can you link me to a purchase site, I'm having trouble finding one.
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post #36 of 52
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I'm taking notes with a 10.2" ~1kg MSI Wind U100 Plus (Atom N280 @ 1.66GHz, GMA950, 2GB ram, 6cell battery), just to double check your theory I unplugged my netbook, started a youtube video on 360p and opened word, it took about 3 seconds to open completely. I can get through about 5 hours of class before it dies on me and needs a recharge.

And of course I walk/bike to class (10-15min) because the city decided not to give students a free pass on local transit during spring/summer semester. So this 1kg netbook > my 2.7kg laptop, especially when I'm heading to the library with a huge textbook.
The Asus netbook sorta gets better when it has been open for a bit, but it is definitely sluggish from the start. Forget about watching Youtube on the IGP.

It really has a good time when she has a PDF, Powerpoint and Word open. Plus a couple tabs in Chrome. That's the Norm for a college student when working on a research paper.

I added 1GB of Ram which helped a little.

She does get around 9 hours of battery though, which is good because outlets are limited on campus.

I have an HP TM2T Tablet PC with an i5, 6GB or Ram, 7200RPM HDD, Radeon 5450..etc (Work PC). I'm able to get over 5 hours while doing Site Surveys, with a 6 Cell battery.

I figure if a netbook is going to be really slow, it should have near 10hrs of battery life to be worth it.

But the thing she loves about it the most is the weight. The dang thing is so stinking light. She bought a sleeve for it and puts it in her purse. She was definitely happy when I bought it for here. Before that she had a 6lb 15" laptop that she pretty much hated.
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But I always have it opened before, I keep it on sleep when I'm not using it.

Yes the hard-drive is Toshiba, I understand purchasing denial and try to avoid it and I'm testing your reboot theory now. 5 hours isn't great, but it's enough for me and that's what I could find at the time.

I've never heard of Zacate, can you link me to a purchase site, I'm having trouble finding one.
Umm... srsly?

Ultra-portables based on the AMD E-350 are very popular. You can get the HP DM1z for $420. If you want something lower end, a netbook, you can also get the Acer Aspire One AO522 for $330. At that price point, there's just no reason to get Atom at all. The AMD C-50 is MUCH faster than single-core Atom and the GPU will leave the Intel GMA in the dust.
    
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I figure if a netbook is going to be really slow, it should have near 10hrs of battery life to be worth it.
Most netbooks will be slower than most newer laptops on the market and battery life for laptops and netbooks will increase as dies get smaller and draw less power and displays becoming more efficient. My 15.6" laptop actually has 4 hours of battery life which is enough for my school purposes but the weight and size is what's killing me so I got a netbook, got it for 180 from another student, it's only 5 hours but it's enough for me.

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Umm... srsly?

Ultra-portables based on the AMD E-350 are very popular. You can get the HP DM1z for $420. If you want something lower end, a netbook, you can also get the Acer Aspire One AO522 for $330. At that price point, there's just no reason to get Atom at all. The AMD C-50 is MUCH faster than single-core Atom and the GPU will leave the Intel GMA in the dust.
Seriously.

I checked the Acer Aspire One AO522, cheapest I found it for was $320 after tax and shipping on ebay, which is great but I'd still rather stick with my $180 netbook. If I were to spend more, it would be for the keyboard size which basically translates to screen size.

I have also rebooted my netbook and opened word (on battery power), as you said it took 10 seconds to fully load up and it did not occur to me to think about loading time from ram.

I also took the liberty of restarting my 15.6" acer laptop and loading up microsoft word, it took about 8 seconds to fully load, so I'm guessing it must be microsoft word just taking a long time to load up.

Mind you it's an i3-350m, GT330M, 4GB kingston DDR3, 320GB WD Scorpio Blue with a recently re-installed win7 home premium, I would test my desktop but it's not with me at the moment.

PS: posting on my netbook because restarted laptop
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Seriously.

I checked the Acer Aspire One AO522, cheapest I found it for was $320 after tax and shipping on ebay, which is great but I'd still rather stick with my $180 netbook. If I were to spend more, it would be for the keyboard size which basically translates to screen size.

I have also rebooted my netbook and opened word (on battery power), as you said it took 10 seconds to fully load up and it did not occur to me to think about loading time from ram.

I also took the liberty of restarting my 15.6" acer laptop and loading up microsoft word, it took about 8 seconds to fully load, so I'm guessing it must be microsoft word just taking a long time to load up.

Mind you it's an i3-350m, GT330M, 4GB kingston DDR3, 320GB WD Scorpio Blue with a recently re-installed win7 home premium, I would test my desktop but it's not with me at the moment.

PS: posting on my netbook because restarted laptop

For $180 you're only gonna get something used, and I don't think that's really a fair comparison. Also, when you have money, change to a 7200RPM HDD or an SSD on your main laptop and you'll see it opening apps faster. I took the liberty of opening up Word from a cold boot up with mine and it took 5 seconds.
    
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For $180 you're only gonna get something used, and I don't think that's really a fair comparison. Also, when you have money, change to a 7200RPM HDD or an SSD on your main laptop and you'll see it opening apps faster. I took the liberty of opening up Word from a cold boot up with mine and it took 5 seconds.
yes i know it's not a fair comparison with old vs new, but it's what I have to work with, which is why in my previous post when I was generalizing to others I said you could easily get a new netbook for $230 after tax from a retail store.

If I had extra cash, I would dump it into a new graphics card, I don't mind the initial loading time, it's only a few seconds more, and once it's in memory it's good to go for the day. Plus cold boot on my main laptop is actually quite fast for a 5400rpm. I'm also trying to sell my laptop so upgrading it would be kinda silly.


edit: forgot to put link to netbook from ebay I found, incase you guys are interested here it is: http://cgi.ebay.ca/Acer-Netbook-10-1...item564392804e
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