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Hello, this is the first time here for me, so thanks for reading.
I want to build a computer WITH accessories less than $1000 USD and can use some advice.

Motherboard - MSI P67A-C43~ $150 USD (Not sure about this, but I need USB 3.0)
CPU - Intel i5 2400 ~ $180 USD (Is it worth it to get i5 2500k?)
GPU - MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II/OC ~ $225 USD
PSU - Delta GPS-550AB-A (550W, 30A on 12V) FREE; Should I get a better PSU?
RAM - Kingston KHX1600C9D3X2K2 (2 x 2GB 1600) FREE
HDD - Seagate ES ST3100524NS (Constellation 1TB) FREE
OD - LITEON iHAS321 FREE
Soundcard - None; Should I get a good sound card? If so any suggestion?
Case - NZXT M59 ~ $80USD

Monitor - Asus VE228H ~ $156USD
Keyboard - Microsoft SideWinder X4 ~ FREE
Mouse - Razer Abyssus ~ be FREE
Speaker - Altec Lansing VS2621 2.1 ~ $53USD

Total so far: roughly $850USD, around $250 left to spend, or just keep this build. I'll be gaming a little (need to handle Crysis sort of games), watching x.264 1080p videos...Also I'm interested in overclocking to a beginner/moderate level...

So some advices needed are should I upgrade CPU to 2500k? Can my PSU handle it? Also, 2500k is for overclocking, will my PSU handle it, along with GTX 560 Ti?
Or perhaps I should get a better PSU, like Seasonic/Antec/Corsair?
Also, should I invest in a decent soundcard?

Thanks in advance for any advice!
Edited by MPY - 5/17/11 at 6:01pm
post #2 of 12
The Core i5 2500k is worth it if your going to overclock.

Change hard drive to
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...spinpoint%20f3

PSU to
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-028-_-Product

Edit: The Seagate ES ST3100524NS line is known to fail.

The 2500k would be a great processor for novice overclockers because all you have to do is raise the multiplier from 33 to 45 and raise the voltage a bit and you would be running at 4.5Ghz, you would need a new heatsink maybe a Hyper 212+
Edited by WannaBeOCer - 5/17/11 at 6:09pm
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post #3 of 12
Getting a sound card is not as important as it used to be. With those speakers you probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference between soundcard audio and the motherboard integrated audio.

If you get a really good pair of speakers later on, you can get a soundcard then.

I would go for a corsair/seasonic/antec psu like you suggested. ( in no particular order)

If you want to overclock the cpu; even if you're a beginner, get the 2500K. Its a beast and the best bang for your buck.
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Just noticed the motherboard your planning to buy is overpriced and doesn't have any VRM cooling. It isn't a good choice for overclocking, you can get a decent Asus for $10 more http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...scrollFullInfo

Or a MSI P67A-GD53
for the same price

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-572-_-Product
Edited by WannaBeOCer - 5/17/11 at 6:25pm
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Thanks for all the advices! So I definitely should change the PSU...but I heard Corsair builder series isn't that reliable...Is this ok? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-094-_-Product

hmmm...I also have a Sennheiser HD600 but I have an audio system for that...

so should I overclock my computer with Seasonic S12II 520W 40A @ 12V?
Also, is overclocking i5 2400 (not that much) be sufficient for my purpose?

What's vrm cooling? Thanks for helping me out!
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Corsair is a reliable brand, here's an excellent review of a similar PSU:

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/artic...y-Review/750/1

Seasonic is a good brand as well. There are many good PSU brands to choose from, just don't get a bad one as it's the one component that can take others with it when it breaks.

VRM cooling is a heatsink on the parts of the motherboard that deliver power to your processor. When you overclock, they tend to get hot because your CPU can be drawing 80-100 amps of current.

Also, if you are going to overclock you will want to get a different heatsink (as said before.) Something like this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-065-_-Product
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post #7 of 12
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Originally Posted by MPY View Post
Thanks for all the advices! So I definitely should change the PSU...but I heard Corsair builder series isn't that reliable...Is this ok? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-094-_-Product

hmmm...I also have a Sennheiser HD600 but I have an audio system for that...

so should I overclock my computer with Seasonic S12II 520W 40A @ 12V?
Also, is overclocking i5 2400 (not that much) be sufficient for my purpose?

What's vrm cooling? Thanks for helping me out!
You want to handle games like Crysis at decent settings, you can only overclock the Core i5 2400 3 multipliers higher than Turbo Boost which would be x37 so 3.7Ghz. Only K series have unlocked multipliers which allow you to raise the multiplier to 59(or close to 50) Most Core i5 2500ks can hit 4.5Ghz, thats 800Mhz higher than the Core i5 2400 for $35 more. I believe that would be a 10-20FPS increase in most games.

Seasonic powersupplies are reliable thats why I got my Corsair AX850, it's a Seasonic unit.

You can get this Corsair TX650w which is an actual Seasonic unit and it's the same price as the 620w

Edit: Free Shipping and $10 mail-in-rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-020-_-Product

VRM cooling are the heatsinks around the CPU socket
Edited by WannaBeOCer - 5/17/11 at 9:44pm
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thanks again! how do you tell if a motherboard has vrm cooling?
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thanks again! how do you tell if a motherboard has vrm cooling?
The heatinks around the CPU socket are VRM coolers
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CPU can be drawing 80-100 amps of current.

Can someone verify this statement? This seems like an ass ton of current. Sort of makes sense if you think 95 Watts at just over 1 volt, still seems like a lot.
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