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It was a lot of plats. However, it does count for points in my HOM for GW2 rewards / looks cool so it was worth it.

This Dervish build looks pretty interesting! Can't wait till I get my Dervish char. to lvl 20 and through EOTN to try this build out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqBwM...layer_embedded
oh thats cool it carries over ...

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The Dervish class was introduced with Nightfall. Check this out for info:
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Basic_armor
ok thanks for the link ..
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Just no coffee breaks since the masters is achieved by completing the mission fast enough heh.
That is what I hated about Factions. I remember that on one of the missions I got masters reward with 2 seconds to spare. Talk about down to the wire!

I need to get summon spirits. This would really speed up my spirit spamming.
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Shadow form

the most awful thing that ever happened to GW
I never understood why people have such an issue with SF realy no one forces you to use it, there is no area that requires you to use a team build including it.

before SF there was 600 builds before that 55hp builds, echo trapping, enchant/stance warriors, terra tanks etc etc. I played GW in the beta and in the we were 2maning full uw and fow, if you take any game seriously enough you will always find ways to break pve ^^

If you choose to actualy use those broken builds or not is entirely up to you.

The thing I felt broke the game was pvx wiki everyone clones builds that they dont understands and refuses to experiment with anything new. I just spam up a fotm build at the run start and then swap back to whatever im testing before the game starts.

Oh and pve skills make the already easy content incredibly faceroll.
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55hp, ursan etc were never so prevalent as SF was and SF was basically and to an extent still is the backbone of the GW PvE-end-game.

I know I don't have to use it and I never did but it just bugs me that a-net decided to take such a stupid stance about the game. They officially said that they wanted to make every are accessible to everyone. So in another words they wanted to dumb down the difficulty, and what do you know, SF was born.

After the skill and the build it made possible went mainstream (damn you PvX wiki, but that's another argument) the game's economy was basically destroyed. There were no normal groups for UW/FoW/Elite missions (DoA/dungeons) anymore, just speedclear groups doint the same thing over and over again using the same build over and over again. And all that just to get more money and do it faster than the other players around you.

The skill almost single-handedly turned all of PvE to a place where only few builds were accepted if you wanted a group and everyone turned into smug elitists that wouldn't tolerate a single mistake or anything out of the ordinary on any elite areas.

Add to that the fact that if you didn't want to use the skill you were at an disadvantage if you wanted to make money or something since the economy was now centered on the items that we're made easily available by SF.

The only way you could get without using the skill was to play with a group of friends that had the same mindset as you did. Gladly I have a group of these friends.
 
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A word.

Don't use wikia. Use wiki. Wikia is a heartless management group that tried real hard to kill PvXwiki and guildwarswiki. Support the original two wikis, please
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A word.

Don't use wikia. Use wiki. Wikia is a heartless management group that tried real hard to kill PvXwiki and guildwarswiki. Support the original two wikis, please
I never knew there was a difference lol.
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Yup. There was actually a nasty spell when PvXwiki owners had to fight wikia to keep their content. Everything is straight, now, though. But I just avoid wikia... it seems like the shopping mall of wikis.
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55hp, ursan etc were never so prevalent as SF was and SF was basically and to an extent still is the backbone of the GW PvE-end-game.

<snip>

The only way you could get without using the skill was to play with a group of friends that had the same mindset as you did. Gladly I have a group of these friends.


I would argue that the true end game has always centered around a small selection of builds, SF has just brought the end game to a much bigger audiance.

Your last point was always true before pvx and team builds getting a pub run to the "elite" zones was impossible you had to know people you knew were good, the only thing thats changed is now it is possible but only if you fill an exact niche

Its probably most annoying as a semi casual player as you have a desire to do those zones but not neccarily the friends to do it your own way : / Kind of how Iway ruined mid level HA never realy affected those of us at the top because we were already meta gaming or thinking up clever counters to meta all that changed was the exact build and counters. Same for pve SF has just made it equal oppertunities ^^

I'ts kind of depressing looking back on it now how much of an eliteist i used to be : / these days I'm a jobber and frankly have way more fun in games when im just helping nabs out
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Just added a link to the end of the OP of a guys channel, he's goin thru all of GW and shows alot of helpful hints and tips when goin thru missions.
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Here is the latest part of the survey. 34 entries. For those of you who don't understand what the numbers mean this shows the percentage of people who have each game and the amount of people who have unlocked hard mode for each game.
Prophesies
32 (94%)
Factions
28 (82%)
Nightfall
28 (82%)
Eye Of The North
25 (74%)
Prophesies Hard Mode
17 (50%)
Factions Hard Mode
15 (44%)
Nightfall Hard Mode
13 (38%)
Eye Of The North Hard Mode
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