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If you play competitive gaming it matters,otherwise it doesen't

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post #12 of 39
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Originally Posted by Eduardv View Post
If you play competitive gaming it matters,otherwise it doesen't

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There are so many things wrong with this post that I can't even count them with my fingers.

Most importantly, the response times don't matter, input lag and refresh rates do. And people enjoy low input lag and high refresh rates even without playing in competetive. Not everyone enjoys the commitment.
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I dont notice the difference between 2ms or 12ms
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So I bought a 27" View Sonic monitor and it claims to be the first 27 incher with a 1ms response time. What does that translate to in gaming/movies? Looks smoother than my other monitor (in sig) and I'm pretty sure I see a difference but I'm not sure of the technical details behind 1ms response time.
Edited by Dooginater - 5/19/11 at 2:09pm
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Looking for a new monitor over the internet is hard when specs tell you nothing of quality..
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Anything below 10ms you will not notice. Your eyes take 10ms to notice any change in movement. beyond it = beyond the limits of human vision.

Input lag matter much more. G2G is fine as most colour transitions fall within grey to grey.
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Anything below 10ms you will not notice. Your eyes take 10ms to notice any change in movement. beyond it = beyond the limits of human vision.
Nope. Tests have shown that humans are able to see up to 220FPS, which is about 4.5ms...

Not that humans couldn't see further. I can do 170hz on this monitor, and I still see the mouse movement lag significantly.

Also, if you claim that <10ms response times aren't noticiable, you are ignorant. High quality CRT monitors provide much better motion clarity than ANY LCD because they don't have ghosting, like all LCD monitors. The response times are VERY visible, the marketed numbers are just not reliable.
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post #18 of 39
1) Manufacturers provide you with grey-to-grey.... not useful.
2) Manufacturers lie.


Response time as stated in the specs basically means nothing.


http://www.maximumtech.com/display-m...specs?page=0,2
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post #19 of 39
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Nope. Tests have shown that humans are able to see up to 220FPS, which is about 4.5ms...
You're confusing the detection of shift in movement vs. the noticeably of flickering (FPS). Both are different things. When a thing moves, it takes the brain 10ms to process it. This is why hitting a fastball in baseball / pace bowler delivery in cricket is so difficult if you try and see the ball and track it. The only reason people can hit it is that they focus their eyes ahead of the trajectory of the ball and guess where it will go.

See here: http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5311306

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Originally Posted by De-Zant View Post
Also, if you claim that <10ms response times aren't noticiable, you are ignorant. High quality CRT monitors provide much better motion clarity than ANY LCD because they don't have ghosting, like all LCD monitors. The response times are VERY visible, the marketed numbers are just not reliable.
That's input lag. There's a difference. You're actually the one that's ignorant.

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/features....htm#input_lag
Edited by chinesekiwi - 5/19/11 at 8:14am
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That's input lag. There's a difference. You're actually the one that's ignorant.

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/features....htm#input_lag
Nope. You misunderstood. I know what input lag is, and I know that CRT monitors have less of it. I mean motion clarity. LACK OF GHOSTING. Get it? No LCD looks as clear when you have a moving picture as a proper CRT monitor. This is the result of ghosting, which is caused by slow response times, though that has nothing to do with the marketed specs.
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