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So Im on EKs site and Im looking at reservoirs, want everything internal.

So I figure go with there spin bay res's.

BUT then I see these Pump/Res combos. What does that mean? I see the big acetal block, I see the metal roundies that must be the pump but I see no reservoir.

Can anyone explain?

Also compression fittings, how to count how many u need. And I need plugs, screw in ones? Where would I find those on the site?

Thanks for any answers.
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What I think your confused about is the differences between a Reservoir, a Pump Top, and Pump top reservoir.

A pump top is used to increase head pressure/flow rate, and to allow for threaded fittings.

A pump top reservoir combo is used for the benefits of having a pump top and the space savings of combining the two. It also reduces the total number of fittings required in a loop.

Edit: To determine how many fittings you need carefully read the product descriptions for the blocks, rads, and other items in your loop. Many will come pre packaged with multiple barb fittings and will not require third party hardware (unless you are aiming for a style or theme with compression fittings).

In your situation you will require 2 compression fittings per item (inlet/outlet). This includes all waterblocks (cpu/gpu/vrm/etc), and radiators. Reservoirs start at 2 and can go up to 6 depending on how many loops you are running. So for example if your loop includes a CPU and GPU block, a res, and a rad you will require 8.
Edited by Interpolation - 5/18/11 at 7:52am
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post #3 of 20
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So this pump:

http://www.ekwaterblocks.com/shop/la...s-mcp-355.html

With this:

http://www.ekwaterblocks.com/shop/ek...etal-g1-4.html

Would equal compression fittings, rather then what looks like barbed, and better flow?
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post #4 of 20
Yes those would work together nicely. The flow rate is the same when comparing barbs and compression fittings of equal inner and outer diameter if that is what you were asking.

The exclusion to the rule is when using angled fittings of course.
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post #5 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ironwolf1974 View Post
So this pump:

http://www.ekwaterblocks.com/shop/la...s-mcp-355.html

With this:

http://www.ekwaterblocks.com/shop/ek...etal-g1-4.html

Would equal compression fittings, rather then what looks like barbed, and better flow?
You could use barbs on that pump-top as well as compression fittings, either or will have the same flow for the most part. The main idea is that you've increased the Inner Diameter of the tubing leading into and out of the pump depending on the sizing of the fitting you use (most use 1/2" ID these days) compared to the stock top which is limited to 3/8" ID.

Also most pump tops have been optimized for higher flow and pressure as well.
    
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post #6 of 20
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Ok so I have the EK waterblocks for both my i7 2600k, two 580s, a 360mm rad, that pump and top, a bay reservoir.

With just the single loop, not dual, I need 8? Or are we talking more?

Compression fittings I mean.
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2x CPU WB, 4x GPU WB's, 2x RAD, 2x PUMP = 12.

A 360 radiator might fall short of properly cooling 2 580's, and a i7 2600k.
It really depends on what brand/model and fans you will be using.
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post #8 of 20
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http://www.ekwaterblocks.com/shop/sc...-3000-rpm.html

Those fans with this:

http://www.ekwaterblocks.com/shop/ek...ad-xt-360.html

Im on a military base, overseas, so getting items from 2 or 3 different vendors would include huge shipping costs.

Right now Im looking at 100 bucks to get the items from EK Waterblocks.

EDIT: Do these parts, specifically from EK come with plugs? Im guessing Ill have to plug off the GPU waterblock holes that I dont use.
Edited by Ironwolf1974 - 5/18/11 at 8:45am
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The EK-CoolStream RAD XT will work well with the Scythe Ultra Kazes. They are known to be a little loud (45db) so you may want to grab a fan controller that can handle their wattage. You will also need longer screws to accommodate for their 38mm depth.

GPU blocks normally come with 2 stop fittings (plugs). Reservoirs also come with one or more, as do some pump tops. A little research into your own products will go a long way.
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The EK-CoolStream RAD XT will work well with the Scythe Ultra Kazes. They are known to be a little loud (45db) so you may want to grab a fan controller that can handle their wattage. You will also need longer screws to accommodate for their 38mm depth.

GPU blocks normally come with 2 stop fittings (plugs). Reservoirs also come with one or more, as do some pump tops. A little research into your own products will go a long way.
Well my shopping cart is full of items everyone on the boards has pointed me to. I was sure those fans would be fine, though now that you mention the screws I do indeed need new ones. Only problem is theres no hardware stores where I am in europe! lol!

And the reason I asked about the stop fittings/plugs is that I dont see them listed as contents with any of the EK items.

EDIT: 12x M3 x 35mm DIN965 screws those screws wouldnt work to fit the fans I listed?

Also I only see plugs listed for the reservoir.
Edited by Ironwolf1974 - 5/18/11 at 9:18am
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