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I was planning on using my current Noctua NH-D14 for my next build ,but I have always wanted to get wet!!! I guess it is a no brainer that the H-100 will beat the air cooler by a decent margin?
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Indeed. The market is just starting to get increased popularity, and if the designs keep getting beefed up, the closed loop could start to rival custom loops for temps
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I was planning on using my current Noctua NH-D14 for my next build ,but I have always wanted to get wet!!! I guess it is a no brainer that the H-100 will beat the air cooler by a decent margin?
Not always. It really depends on the fans, pump, case, etc.
And the D14 is considered pretty much one of the absolute best air coolers, so the H100 would have to beat it by a pretty big margin to achieve a good price/performance ratio.
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I was planning on using my current Noctua NH-D14 for my next build ,but I have always wanted to get wet!!! I guess it is a no brainer that the H-100 will beat the air cooler by a decent margin?
It'll all come down to price-to-performance. The H100 retails for much more than an NH-D14 or Silver Arrow so I would like to see the H100 beat those 2 by at least 5C at load, preferably 8C or more.

I don't know how likely that'll be the case until the reviews start rolling in.
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I sincerely hope you can validate this claim before your words get put through the ringer here/review sites.
I wouldn't have said it if I didn't know for a fact it was true.

I'm not saying there aren't better fans out there - there are. They just aren't the ones that people think they are.

For example, the guy that mentioned the FM121, that's the exact same blade and housing design we use as the default exhaust fan on the 600T. They may have upgraded the motor or bearings, I don't know. But I know the fan blades, and fan housing are identical.

The stock fan that comes with H60 is a great fan - you'd have a hard time finding a better fan under $10 at the same RPM (1700) that will outperform it. Sure, you could go spend $15-$20 and beat it, but for the price, it's just about the best at that RPM. You could also buy a cheaper, higher RPM fan and beat it, but you'd sacrifice noise levels.

The H80 and H100 fans are rated from 900 RPM to 2700 RPM. The "High Performance" mode puts the fans on a curve from 1600 RPM to 2700 RPM (+/- 10%) and the static pressure is monstrous - over 7mm/H2O at max RPM. For pushing through radiators, they kick ass.

In order to maintain civility, I won't mention fans that sucked in our testing - but I'll just say there were some real surprises. Some fans did a lot better than expected, too. The golf-ball dimpled fan from an unnamed manufacturer we tested had really good static pressure as well. Probably not because of the dimples, but nonetheless it made a good radiator fan.
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^ This. That was what I was thinking too when I read your post. It might seem economical to buy a prebuilt one, but in terms of actual price to performance, a custom build is far superior.

Prebuilt ones in the price range of $1400+ can match equally priced custom rigs (and sometimes even outperform -although its very rare), but anything that is classified as "budget" doesn't even come close to a custom.
Fair enough. I'm not advocating buying a system - far from it. I'm just saying that between $900-$2000 or so, it's pretty close from a price/performance standpoint if you build a system on one of their configurators or buy the parts from newegg. And that's usually before adding a legal copy of Windows 7.

The only time I've ever recommended pre-built systems to people is when they're my relatives and I don't want to do tech support for them if something breaks. A $500 Dell or HP system may be about the same (or lower) performance that I could build for that price, but the tech support and free applications go quite a ways.
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/me wants! now!
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Sweet jesus 2700rpm? its funny that these self contained wc systems market themselves as better than high end coolers, but i haven't seen a noctua or a thermalright one with almost 3Krpm fans.
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Sweet jesus 2700rpm? its funny that these self contained wc systems market themselves as better than high end coolers, but i haven't seen a noctua or a thermalright one with almost 3Krpm fans.
You also don't see them with built-in thermal sensors that adjust fan speed based on the temp of the coolant inside their pipes.

The H80/H100 pump has three settings, each with its own fan RPM curve.

Low noise - from 900 RPM to 1300 RPM
Balanced - from 1300 RPM to 2000 RPM
High Performance - from 1600 RPM to 2700 RPM

On "Balanced" mode the H80 is about 3C better than the H70 @ 200W heat load. On High Performance mode, it really depends how much heat you pump into it.
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You also don't see them with built-in thermal sensors that adjust fan speed based on the temp of the coolant inside their pipes.

Do want! Wonder if they will arrive to Finland before end of the year though
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