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[Engadget] Toshiba declares victory in phone pixel density war: 367ppi(720p)

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It's one thing to read about a 367ppi screen that shows native 720p video, and it's quite another to experience it in person. We can report that it is, in fact, as awesome as it sounds -- onscreen images were clear, crisp, and chromatically brilliant. Pixel density enthusiasts will also be happy to hear that Toshiba confirmed the display will make it to market this year.
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Move over, Retina. I think I'll be buying whatever phone this is in this year. I wonder what hardware it will run Android on. Tegra 2?
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wow that's insane
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Whose to say this wont BE the next retina display?
    
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Whose to say this wont BE the next retina display?
It would probably take a new chassis, and Apple still has to release the rest of the features they've developed over the course of the next twelve iPhone 4g updates.
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Wow. Pretty easy to encode content for it, haha

you don't need to encode it
    
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The entire point of the 'Retina' label is that you can't see the pixels. I already have to hold my iPhone 4 a few inches away from my face to make them out, this will just be redundant and pointless. Doing anything will make the GPU work harder for no perceived improvement in quality.

That said, I would think for a watch sized screen or other very small applications, the higher density may be very useful.
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The entire point of the 'Retina' label is that you can't see the pixels. I already have to hold my iPhone 4 a few inches away from my face to make them out, this will just be redundant and pointless. Doing anything will make the GPU work harder for no perceived improvement in quality.

That said, I would think for a watch sized screen or other very small applications, the higher density may be very useful.
So, if you can still make them out, it means that more people will also be in the same position. And that means there is still room for improvement. It will, of course use more power, but specialized decoding hardware will make that almost negligible over the years. Plus, you can just drag and drop most videos on the net onto it, without any encoding. Re-encoding takes up more time and energy than just decoding, and it will save people time and a little on the electrical bill.
 
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So, if you can still make them out, it means that more people will also be in the same position. And that means there is still room for improvement. It will, of course use more power, but specialized decoding hardware will make that almost negligible over the years. Plus, you can just drag and drop most videos on the net onto it, without any encoding. Re-encoding takes up more time and energy than just decoding, and it will save people time and a little on the electrical bill.
Maybe you missed my point, I can't make them out unless I put the phone within inches (less than 3") of my eyes. I just did it and right now I can't even see the pixels before my eyes can't focus. And I don't just mean make out the pixels, I can't see any jagged edges, and curves that don't look curved, etc.

And no matter what 'specialized decoding hardware' comes out, a larger resolution will take more processing power and battery juice to run. I don't think this is some worthless technology but anything past where the iPhone 4 is now is completely pointless. Once you can't see the pixels at a normal distance (obviously depends on the application) any improvement is worthless. If I have a big screen TV that is twice the density of a 1080p TV, it would be completely worthless (as a TV) since I sit 10'+ away. I can't make out and pixelation on the 1080p, why would I want more pixels?
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Move over, Retina. I think I'll be buying whatever phone this is in this year. I wonder what hardware it will run Android on. Tegra 2?
Possibly Tegra 3.

Just reread the Anandtech article on it from 2/15/2011, and Kal el is slated to be in devices as early as August 2011.
    
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Maybe you missed my point, I can't make them out unless I put the phone within inches (less than 3") of my eyes. I just did it and right now I can't even see the pixels before my eyes can't focus. And I don't just mean make out the pixels, I can't see any jagged edges, and curves that don't look curved, etc.

And no matter what 'specialized decoding hardware' comes out, a larger resolution will take more processing power and battery juice to run. I don't think this is some worthless technology but anything past where the iPhone 4 is now is completely pointless. Once you can't see the pixels at a normal distance (obviously depends on the application) any improvement is worthless. If I have a big screen TV that is twice the density of a 1080p TV, it would be completely worthless (as a TV) since I sit 10'+ away. I can't make out and pixelation on the 1080p, why would I want more pixels?

Well, probably because it looks even better, although you may not notice it. But I haven't really used any of both, so I'm just taking their words for it.

But the benefits of using a widely used 720p resolution still stand. You'll be saving time and money on re-encoding for the mobile platforms.
 
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