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Yes, they handled that "flawlessly", minus the fact that if they had actually done any product testing before releasing the thing you wouldn't have had the problem in the first place.

I've heard of plenty of people going through 2 or 3 xboxes thanks to their "flawless" handling of the issue.
The Xbox's hardware flaw isn't really relative to what I said, though.

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The Xbox, from a hardware standpoint, just sucks. The design of it sucks, the components used suck, the power circuitry sucks, the solder sucks, the heatsinks suck, the CPU and GPU have sucked since the year after launch...

But the software and network capabilities are great, and they have a lot of really solid games.
I guess AMD sucks as well considering Microsoft, being the license holder of Xenon and Xenos, beat AMD to the APU punch by 6-7 months.

The problem with initial hardware was that it didn't have adequate cooling for it's chipset, not because of 'poor solder and circuitry.'

Console games still look great compared to modern PC games.

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I'm on my 3rd. A good friend of mine who is a hardcore xbox fanboy is on his 5th or 6th now.
I like how you just called your friend a hardcore fan boy

I'm only on my second and it took 9 days to get mine back. Turns out I live ~300 miles from a refurbish center.
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how do i do this?

i got mine on first day so im sure itll be broke need to call microsoft then.
Edited by illum - 5/18/11 at 10:55am
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Is that right? I tried to get mines fixed in 09 because the blu ray drive died, and they wanted $150. I just ended up selling it.
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I have a 2nd gen zephyr, but my warranty seal is broken from when I fixed my rrod.

Hopefully they will still take it, maybe I can buy one of these: http://cgi.ebay.com/Microsoft-Xbox-3...-/250804732353
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I don't know why people are so hard on the Xbox 360, the PS3 released a year after and both are nearly equivalents in terms of GPU output power. Xbox does incredibly well as such an aged console and has much better software services. It also hides its age much better than the Wii.

If I were to buy a console, it would be the Xbox. I haven't bought any consoles because I'm a big fan of PC gaming (and especially PCs in general) and have stayed true to it since my Sega 32X (and that was when I was just a child).
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Well this is neat. I've never hoped that my hardware would break before!
    
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Lol after 5 RRODs with mine sitting in the middle of the room I gave up. Needless to say my launch PS3 is still running fine.
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I'm done with the xbox, they are trash. Plus, they don't have any games so it isn't worth having to have my hardware repaired every other day.
They don't have any games?!?!

I swear I just saw an entire wall of them at BlockBuster the other day....
    
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Interesting. I was one of the BETA testers for the new firmware and everything was just fine.
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I guess AMD sucks as well considering Microsoft, being the license holder of Xenon and Xenos, beat AMD to the APU punch by 6-7 months.

The problem with initial hardware was that it didn't have adequate cooling for it's chipset, not because of 'poor solder and circuitry.'

Console games still look great compared to modern PC games.
I have no idea what you're on about. What did anything I said have to do with AMD?

And it's an established fact that the RROD issue was caused by thermal expansion of the poor quality solder used to secure the GPU to the mainboard. This was exacerbated by the poor cooling of the first revision of the 360, and only partially fixed with their second version. And power circuitry also caused issues with early versions. The second and third versions of the 360 added nearly half again as many power phases, such that power circuitry took up nearly half of the mainboard. That phase count was lowered later after they did some die shrinks.
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