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Thanks for the replies, im going to go with a 5770 since i've always used ATi/AMD graphics cards and havent had any problems.

Now onto the final problem - i need a case that is equal to or less than 195mm wide. For some reason the office we have has a particularly thin space for the case. I will probably be buying some extra fans since there isnt much space around it to help with ventilation.

Seriously, go with a 5450. It's a lot cheaper, will serve you fine, and generates a fraction of the heat. If you don't overclock, you won't need a bunch of extra fans; just an intake and an exhaust both turning too slowly to be audible. Which will be another plus for the fam thumb.gif

Don't put anything faster than 1500rpm in, or it'll be loud and annoying.

As for your case, you could switch to a good quality barebones microATX board for about 2/3 the cost of the p8p67, which really opens up your options for smaller cases. (Barebones as in 1 x16 slot. Because you only need one.) Could do something like this. (I realize you're not american, I just use newegg for all my computer part research biggrin.gif) Anyway I pulled that one up in about 5 minutes, I'm sure you can find something better, maybe one of fractal's smaller cases. A smaller video card (the 5450 is low-profile ready) helps you out there as well.
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Thanks for all the suggestions!

On the HD front, i made a pc for my dad last year and suggested having it in RAID1 after having a HD fail a few months beforehand. He liked it so much that he wants to protect all the family photographs etc that he takes. And also this PC is high specced enough to last a few years, so the extra safety will definately be worthwhile.

The case issue has been resolved - i convinced him to not put it in the space that was too small and instead on the floor next to it.

The 5450 looks a little too low-tech. It sounds like a good idea not spending so much on something that will get very little gaming - if any at all, but £45-50 looks like an ideal price for it. Any suggestions?

The reason for the 2500k is that ill gently overclock it (nothing too big obviously since its going to have to last a long time). With the tranquillo cooler it should be kept nice and cold so no problems there.

There are two things stopping me from taking the ssd route. The biggest is that my family are very non-tech and having to save things and install things in different places WILL confuse and anger them, and i dont want to have to fix it every other week. Secondly, I am not entirely sure how to install windows and get my documents etc onto a seperate disk.

I'm pushing to get a 21.5" monitor - i got one for the pc i made last year in my dads office and it definately has made a difference, but he seems to have an odd attachment to a 19" iiyama he bought for no particular reason. What are some of the good monitors around £100-130?

I think i will buy two fractal design silent series 120mm fan and put one in the roof, just to get a bit of extra exhaust ventilation and the other in the front. They are only 1000RPM and very quiet.
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Thanks for all the suggestions!

On the HD front, i made a pc for my dad last year and suggested having it in RAID1 after having a HD fail a few months beforehand. He liked it so much that he wants to protect all the family photographs etc that he takes. And also this PC is high specced enough to last a few years, so the extra safety will definately be worthwhile.

The case issue has been resolved - i convinced him to not put it in the space that was too small and instead on the floor next to it.

The 5450 looks a little too low-tech. It sounds like a good idea not spending so much on something that will get very little gaming - if any at all, but £45-50 looks like an ideal price for it. Any suggestions?

The reason for the 2500k is that ill gently overclock it (nothing too big obviously since its going to have to last a long time). With the tranquillo cooler it should be kept nice and cold so no problems there.

There are two things stopping me from taking the ssd route. The biggest is that my family are very non-tech and having to save things and install things in different places WILL confuse and anger them, and i dont want to have to fix it every other week. Secondly, I am not entirely sure how to install windows and get my documents etc onto a seperate disk.

I'm pushing to get a 21.5" monitor - i got one for the pc i made last year in my dads office and it definately has made a difference, but he seems to have an odd attachment to a 19" iiyama he bought for no particular reason. What are some of the good monitors around £100-130?

I think i will buy two fractal design silent series 120mm fan and put one in the roof, just to get a bit of extra exhaust ventilation and the other in the front. They are only 1000RPM and very quiet.
If that's what you want to do then go for it. Just be aware that your CPU will be seeing single digit utilization rates for 99.85% of the time. The 5450 is only a couple years old, and really is an ideal card for what you're trying to do. Anything bigger will be severely underutilized, needlessly expensive, hotter, louder, and consume more power. The one I got cost $40 from microcenter, which google says is about £25. I don't know how well that translates though; when I visited a few summers ago it seemed like everything cost the same in pounds as it does over here in dollars... lol

Anyway you could run dual monitors- get the one you want and set your dad's right next to it as a secondary. It's dead simple to set up and learn to use; my mom has been using a dual monitor setup for about 2 years now and loves it. As far as the monitor choice you'll have to ask someone else, I haven't been shopping for one in some time.

I see your point about setting up the SSD, it does add a few more steps that may or may not be worth the benefits in the end. I'm set up with my users folder on a different drive, but in retrospect it's really not worth the hassle of moving it unless you're on a 30 gig drive or smaller. The rest of the setup isn't all that difficult though; there are a few guides for tweaks and optimizations but they're pretty optional. To switch to the storage drives for your stuff, just change the default libraries in windows. It's a right click thing, and then you just explain to your family that they should use "documents" in the sidebar for almost everything. Written guides and post-its on the monitor have worked well for me in this area. Besides, Windows 7 is pretty good at using non-standard folders for your stuff. Once you have it set up it shouldn't be too different from their perspective

I doubt they'll be installing programs too frequently, and 60gigs is plenty for office and other small random programs anyway. You can set up program files folders on the storage drive, and then when you want to install something big it's as simple as changing the drive letter during installation.

But like I said, it's your call. The SSD can be a pain to get set up... But once it's working things happen ZOMG***BBQWHOLYPISSTHISMUSTBEILLEGAL fast.
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If thats the case then i will have another look over the CPU/Mobo choices and possibly try and squeeze in a 64gb SSD.

I think i will end up running dual monitors, so ill have a look at screens tomorrow.

If changing the settings over is really that easy then i probably will. Mind you, it might just be easier to tell them to save everything onto the 1TB and change over chrome/firefox default save location. Post its sound like a great idea!

Thanks alot for your help, i repped you
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Glad to help And thanks for the +1

If you need any help setting it up, feel free to look me up.
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I've completely redone the whole build, chucking out needlessly fast components.

CPU: i3 2100
Mobo: Asus P8P67-LE
RAM: Corsair XMS3 1600MHZ 4GB
GPU: AMD 5450
PSU: Antec Truepower NEW 550W
HD: Samsung F3 1TB
SSD: Crucial M4 64GB
Optical: Sony AD-7260S-0B
HSF: Gelid Tranquillo
Case: Fractal Design Define R3

I'm happy with this build, but have one last question...! Will a 5450 be able to drive two monitors, one 1680*1050 and the other 1280*768 (or something around that)?

If im doing anything stupid please tell me.
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I've completely redone the whole build, chucking out needlessly fast components.

CPU: i3 2100
Mobo: Asus P8P67-LE
RAM: Corsair XMS3 1600MHZ 4GB
GPU: AMD 5450
PSU: Antec Truepower NEW 550W
HD: Samsung F3 1TB
SSD: Crucial M4 64GB
Optical: Sony AD-7260S-0B
HSF: Gelid Tranquillo
Case: Fractal Design Define R3

I'm happy with this build, but have one last question...! Will a 5450 be able to drive two monitors, one 1680*1050 and the other 1280*768 (or something around that)?

If im doing anything stupid please tell me.
Looks like a good build to me!

The 5450 can run 2 monitors, but one of the outputs is VGA. It's not really an issue; I'd probably use that output for the 19". When you do get dual monitors set up, look into a program called ultramon that adds a taskbar to the second monitor, and makes setting wallpapers much easier than stock windows.
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