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If only Apple didn't become the most valuable brand on the planet
    
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everyone saying that this isnt a virus, you are right. But the fact that this is hitting the way it is shows a transition in the development of malware. That transition will inevitably filter over to virus's. Its only a matter of time before we start hearing about this. in fact, I remember a couple years ago, there was a torrent of iWorks that had a virus and a keylogger in it. That was special telling people when theyd come in asking what happened. Granted the distrobution was small because it was a torrent for iWorks, but it still hit people. but now that this is here, I can just imagine what we will see withing the year especially considering Apples not so customer oriented response to this.
I don't think we'll see much unless MS can spread propaganda to capitalize on this because Apple has taken over the "religious" parts of their fans/consumer's brains and they will believe anything from their lord God Jobs. He'll bury this like he buried everything else. Hell they're telling their support staff not to acknowledge the malware's existence to the consumer.
     
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I dont know, I think people while dumb enough to give admin rights, are smart enough to see trends. In fact, its human nature to try to create and see trends. So the more these things creep up, the more they will try to see some sort of trend and reasoning. Also, have you always done everything you were told to do at work to a T? I would venture a guess as to a no. And if you read the communications, the Analyst even admits to not always following the process and helping people sometimes. This will be a big part of what's going to make or break it for Apple. If they can iron fist control their support staff or not.
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yeah my account got haxed and somebody bought 17 euro worth of stuff >_>
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Two thoughts:



2) For all the Mac haters, I think you need to remember that IE is the by far most vulnerable browser, that Windows has far more released viruses/malware out there, that it is far easier to infect the average Windows PC than the average Macintosh, and that for every noob who buys a Mac because it's just "better," there's at least one tech-savvy person who just doesn't want to put with the buggy, insecure, slow, and frustrating operating system known as Windows.

And before, you hate, check the sig rig/listed systems - I run both Mac and PC and am fully aware of the upside and downside to both systems.

at least MS has free antivirus software and a very good one, apple doesnt
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I think the point that has been missed here is little known fact that MS offers free support for Virus/Malware issues for all Windows User's, whether they bought an OEM or a copy of windows directly from retailer/MS. But Apple is refusing to offer the same kind of services, and whats amazing is that these idiots pay 100's of dollars for "Apple Care" and then can't even get support for an issue they are having. But this is just another of Apples many lie's coming back to bite em in the behind!
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and finally the mac users will understand that just because it has an apple stamped on it, does not make it impervious to attacks.
    
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everyone saying that this isnt a virus, you are right. But the fact that this is hitting the way it is shows a transition in the development of malware. That transition will inevitably filter over to virus's. Its only a matter of time before we start hearing about this. in fact, I remember a couple years ago, there was a torrent of iWorks that had a virus and a keylogger in it. That was special telling people when theyd come in asking what happened. Granted the distrobution was small because it was a torrent for iWorks, but it still hit people. but now that this is here, I can just imagine what we will see withing the year especially considering Apples not so customer oriented response to this.
I think it will be abit harder with OS X to spread a virus like you'd see traiditonal Windows-based viruses. OS X is pretty locked down and uses various portions of technology, a mix of Unix, BSD, and Cocoa. To my knowledge you'd have to compromise every one of those and in certain order to be able to spread the virus from one computer to another automatically. The help of Unix-based permissions SHOULD eliminate most of this, but again, nothing is perfect, so we'll see.

Will malware in general be more venerable on OS X in the future? Most certainly. Will it actually be a "virus" as we know them? I'm not so sure.
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I think it will be abit harder with OS X to spread a virus like you'd see traiditonal Windows-based viruses. OS X is pretty locked down and uses various portions of technology, a mix of Unix, BSD, and Cocoa. To my knowledge you'd have to compromise every one of those and in certain order to be able to spread the virus from one computer to another automatically. The help of Unix-based permissions SHOULD eliminate most of this, but again, nothing is perfect, so we'll see.

Will malware in general be more venerable on OS X in the future? Most certainly. Will it actually be a "virus" as we know them? I'm not so sure.
I dont know a whole lot about the structure of the OS itself, but I do remembering hearing a while back that at one of the hacker conventions, someone had a mac and it was hacked in under 10seconds iirc. Granted, thats a manual attack which can respond and not automated. But I guess we'll see what comes.

I admit, I do kind of hope it turns out just as bad on Macs as PCs if for no other reason than to kick Apple square in the nuts then again in the face while their on the ground. Now dont go calling me an apple hater, their product isnt bad, its their business model that is. That is why i am not a fan at all.
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I dont know a whole lot about the structure of the OS itself, but I do remembering hearing a while back that at one of the hacker conventions, someone had a mac and it was hacked in under 10seconds iirc. Granted, thats a manual attack which can respond and not automated. But I guess we'll see what comes.

I admit, I do kind of hope it turns out just as bad on Macs as PCs if for no other reason than to kick Apple square in the nuts then again in the face while their on the ground. Now dont go calling me an apple hater, their product isnt bad, its their business model that is. That is why i am not a fan at all.
I have no issues with their business model. They cater to a niche market. Same with watercooling. I don't hear people complaining about bitspower charging 15 bucks for a single fitting.

What I find funny is that all of the people who call Apple users fanatics (this isn't geared toward you, NameUnknown) , when they're far more fanatical than the Apple user about what the Apple user is using.
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