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Just be careful when you do it. When I was trying to decide if my cooler needed lapping, I did the razor test and pressed down too hard. Left a nice little cut in the copper.

That's actually why I lapped my cooler, originally I wasn't going to but after some rusty razor testing I put lines all in it.

I'm going to take the chip out and run it over some 2000 to try and get it to look nicer and take some pictures.
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I did this to start out with but it wasn't accurate because my razer was 2 years old and rusty. I think I need to buy one.

Also can anyone tell me why the hell my first two cores are always more than the last 2. From my understanding there are two different objects under this IHS like shown here:

~snip~

And each is independent and has it's own temperature range more or less, and in my case one just runs hotter than the other?
That picture seems to be of a Pentium D. Newer ones like your Q6600 arent like that -- they are all on one single die. Also, your Heatsink may still be slightly convex and is pushing harder in some spots.
    
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A delta C (difference in temperature between cores) of about 5C is normal.

I agree with the above with the razor blade test.

Lapping my q6700 only dropped my temps by 2-3C. The washer mod on my TRUE shaved another 5C off (at the expense of re-using the bracket as i assume it will be a little deformed should i choose to remount.)

EDIT: you need either a better heatsink, or a bigger fan strapped to that heatsink, those temps are at the chip's theoretical limits.
    
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I only get the 10C drop when I use the dot TIM apply method. When I smear it flat with my finger and a bag I get only about a 3C drop because the heatsink is either not laying flat on it or there's not enough pressure against the chip because it's push pin and not a screw system. When I take the heatsink off after smearing the TIM it's only contacting a rectangle in the middle of the chip. (This is actually why I decided to lap it.)
I decided to leave the finish alone until I get my Noctua and take pictures of what's happening when I apply TIM in different ways. (As I talked about in my quote.)




Damn smear method! I want to use it because there is less paste in between each surface which should result in better temperatures, but I can't because it doesn't sit evenly for some reason.
Edited by Khaotik55 - 5/18/11 at 4:39pm
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heatsink is concave-not flat
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post #16 of 32
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heatsink is concave-not flat
I hope it's the heatsink and not the chip, because like I said I'm getting the Noctua so the heatsink is going to be on my shelf from now on.

Edit: Funny thing is when I take the chip out of the motherboard and place it on my heatsink it will actually stick to it for a split second giving me the impression that they both are flat. You would think it's just the push pins not being able to put enough pressure but that 2nd pic confirms that something isn't even here.

Edit2:

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Throw an angled shot with some mirror finish action up!

Edited by Khaotik55 - 5/18/11 at 6:40pm
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We can't tell if it looks right. You have to take a razor and put it on IHS. Shine a light through it and if you see any or if it's too concave or convex then try again.

Personally I would have gone 400-800-1000-1200-1500.

Edit: Hivemind.
Another way to do this is use a feeler gage if you have one. Like a .003 inch feeler gage. I use these when lapping cylinder heads for engines, and a straitedge. If you cant poke a .003 inch feeler gage through it, its ready for work. But I understand that not everyone has a .003 inch feeler gage. Just another way to check for flatness haha
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That picture seems to be of a Pentium D. Newer ones like your Q6600 arent like that -- they are all on one single die. Also, your Heatsink may still be slightly convex and is pushing harder in some spots.
Uhhh Just like the Pentium D. Intel's first and second gen quad cores were just two CPUs slapped together.

That's the reason some people would sand all the way down to the die. To get rid of the IHS not making contact on one side.
    
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75C under load???? Am i the only one that thinks that this is not safe? Try running it stock till you get a better heatsink cause till than you could easily burn your chip.
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75C under load???? Am i the only one that thinks that this is not safe? Try running it stock till you get a better heatsink cause till than you could easily burn your chip.
Q6600's don't die. I've been running worse than that for about 3-4 years now.
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