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post #31 of 57
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Originally Posted by Spooony View Post
bc2 doesn't use you card. It use the cpu. If Dice is doing the audio on BF3 then it would be the same and difference between a $30 or $200 card would be none.
Funny you're the only person I've seen say it DOESN'T make a difference.
post #32 of 57
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Originally Posted by Iceman23 View Post
Funny you're the only person I've seen say it DOESN'T make a difference.
ok here's another bloke saying so. He help design the audio for the game
http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/batt...c2-full.aspx##

No hardware acceleration there mate
post #33 of 57
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Originally Posted by chalkbluffgrown View Post
The difference in the two would be amazing.

Spoony it is plain wrong to say such things. Your card is reproducing the audio, and if you use a crappy card to reproduce audio, regardless it comes from the game engine or not, it will still sound crappy.

Play an MP3 with a really high bit rate on a thirty dollar card. Bet it sounds like crap. Play that on an expensive card with good components and playback and I bet it sounds great.
lol
Tell me how are you going to get better when the highest achievable will be 96db?
Let me see a 200 dollar card with a snr 120db ->nope 96db only possible

cheap 30 dollar card with a snr 98db ->96db

Am I wrong?
post #34 of 57
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Originally Posted by Spooony View Post
lol
Tell me how are you going to get better when the highest achievable will be 96db?
Let me see a 200 dollar card with a snr 120db ->nope 96db only possible

cheap 30 dollar card with a snr 98db ->96db

Am I wrong?
Do you even know what SNR means? Dynamic range and SNR are different things
post #35 of 57
He does not. He often quotes other sources out of context to formulate his answers.

People then deflate or refute what he says, and he then makes a quote of someone else's work or opinion.

Knowledge is power, regurgitation is puke.
post #36 of 57
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Originally Posted by RallyMaster View Post
Put your money where your mouth is and try playing BC2 using headphones on onboard sound and then do it on an X-Fi. I'll be damned if the positioning performance is the same on both because I can tell you with 100% certainty it is not.
why are you talking about a onboard? I never said anything about a onboard. With headphones on there will be no difference between Xonar DG and the STX with BC2. if you want to go the onboard way they don't have a amp to boost the headphones like the cards have. I said nothing about a onboard. Read my post again
post #37 of 57
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Originally Posted by Spooony View Post
why are you talking about a onboard? I never said anything about a onboard. With headphones on there will be no difference between Xonar DG and the STX with BC2. if you want to go the onboard way they don't have a amp to boost the headphones like the cards have. I said nothing about a onboard. Read my post again
I love how you selectively ignore my posts because you know you screwed up.
post #38 of 57
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Originally Posted by Iceman23 View Post
Do you even know what SNR means? Dynamic range and SNR are different things
who said anything about dynamic range? Then who said anything about mp3? There is a hundred different things that influence the mp3s and it compressed and cut up audio.
Remember I'm talking about BC2 Not Pavorotti in Concert, not Crysis and not about a Imax movie but BC2.

Imagine you have different cups (96db). Now a DAC job is to fill that cups to close as possible to that (96) Its not going to add more cups, its not going to make the cup bigger. Its going to try to fill that cups. That's what a DAC does. Do not confuse audio quality with the snr because there's too many things influencing it. Will you hear the difference on BC2 using cans between the DG and STX using a 70 dollar unamplified headset? No
Edited by Spooony - 5/20/11 at 8:20am
post #39 of 57
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Originally Posted by Iceman23 View Post
I love how you selectively ignore my posts because you know you screwed up.
Lmoa I'm getting to you mate. Just got up in lying in bed and currently on the phone. So you don't see the replys like on the big screen.
post #40 of 57
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Originally Posted by Spooony View Post
who said anything about dynamic range? Then who said anything about mp3? There is a hundred different things that influence the mp3s and it compressed and cut up audio.
Remember I'm talking about BC2 Not Pavorotti in Concert, not Crysis and not about a Imax movie but BC2.
Come on man, this is getting ridiculous. Seriously you have no clue. Where did you get the 96dB figure from? The artice you posted. What was that article talking about? That's right, dynamic range. Let me quote it for you.

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Bit Depth
I will try to keep this section short, but in doing so I'll have to make it quite technical. In digital audio, bit depth refers to the dynamic range of each sample in an audio signal. So 16-bit PCM gives us a dynamic range of about 96 dB (the simplified formula is 6*bitCount).
See that there? NOTHING about SNR. They are completely different things. I'm not evening going to attempt to understand that mess about cups and dB. Please, refrain from posting about things that you have completely fabricated or know nothing about.
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