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Game developer Lionhead has declared that second-hand sales of video games for the Xbox 360 are a bigger problem for the company than pirated video games on the PC. In other words, the resale or pre-owned games cost the company more in the long run than piracy does.

"Piracy these days on PC is probably less problematic than second-hand sales on the Xbox," Mike West, the lead combat designer for Fable III, which is made by Lionhead, told Eurogamer. "I've been working on PC games for many years and piracy is always a problem. There are a lot of honest people out there as well, and if they like your game they'll buy it. The pirates, whatever you do on whatever system, they will crack it. It might take no time... I think the longest it's taken to happen is two days. Someone will crack it somewhere and there's not much you can do about it."
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Tis true, the amount s game gets pirated is a drop in the bucket compared to how much money gamestop and such make reselling used games.
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Unique keys linked to accounts similar to or the same as steam. I'm sure I read that somewhere but then console kids would rage. I prefer to buy a new game myself and i can see how badly it would effect them because every shop do pre-owned games now, even supermarkets in UK.
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I wonder how much Honda, Toyota, Nissan, GM, Ford, MB, BMW, etc. lose on used cars.
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Originally Posted by mnishimura00 View Post
I wonder how much Honda, Toyota, Nissan, GM, Ford, MB, BMW, etc. lose on used cars.
I agree with the concept and think that we have a right to second sale in this country, that being said the value in most games is in the experience, once you've played a game a certain amount of time you're likely to put it away and rarely, if ever, play it again. That means it is not really big deal to sell, unlike your car which has its utility spread out over the life of the car.

I really am sympathetic about second hand sales of games but they need to do things like the 10 dollar online cards and NOT trying to restrict the right of second sale.
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wow they are lost my business
 
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post #7 of 23
Too true. And as said in the article a pirated game doesn't not immediately equal a loss in sales because if they like it they will buy it.
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Bigger problem? For who? Certainly not for the people your industry relies on asswipe! Money grabbing twats.
Release a good game, people will buy it on release, release so so games they will pick up second hand.
Every post about game publishers crying about second hand purchases is just another post about how they are butthurt how they cannot charge you again for their disc of bland.
So sick of these fools, the games industry really has turned into something disgusting.
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They are presuming people who buy second-hand games would pay full-price for a game. They also presume people who buy full-price games would buy them even if they could not sell them later.
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They are presuming people who buy second-hand games would pay full-price for a game. They also presume people who buy full-price games would buy them even if they could not sell them later.
And so do nearly all the estimates for losses from piracy, they presume that the pirates would actually pay full price/anything for the games in the first place.

I think estimates for losses from piracy and second hand games are very hard to quantify, due to the reasons you mentioned, yet companies still seem to presume that they lost X amount of money because however many copies were illegally downloaded or whatever, and don't consider reasoning
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