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ok im using a horrible foxconn A6GMV

and i have a budget of £70 for a better board so far im looking at these

ASRock M3A770DE AM3 Motherboard up to 140wCPU
http://www.cclonline.com/product/283...board/MBD5266/

Biostar TA870 Socket AM3 Motherboard up to 125wCPU
http://www.cclonline.com/product/538...board/MBD1283/

foxconn A9DA-s up to 140wCPU
http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/p...ds/A9DA-S.html

obviously because i am OCing a athlon II x4 640 i need a better board this one has crappy VRM`s i would prefer a full ATX board so my GPU dosnot block any SATA connections like it dose on my current board and if possible 4 DDR3 slots so i can just purchase another 2x2GB sticks to max out at 8GB ram

ok i have my ram from amazon 2x2GB at £27.98 - £13.99 per stick
Edited by craigs911 - 5/19/11 at 8:21am
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If you can spare another fiver on the Mobo, I highly recommend this one:

Asus M4A79XTD-EVO
8+2 phase, heatsinked.

Also Ram wise, it depends if you want 1300MHz or 1600MHz really.

Mushkin Silverline's on that list £34.99 (1333)
I guess the XMS3's or Mushkin Copperhead's are your best bet outta these (1600)

If you go for the XMS3's, the Classic's run at lower volt's for 4 quid more: http://www.scan.co.uk/products/4gb-(...s-9-9-9-24-15v
Or the regular's from the same shop as the Mobo to save you delivery costs: http://www.scan.co.uk/products/4gb-(...-9-24-xmp-165v
Edited by EvoBeardy - 5/19/11 at 7:56am
 
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Originally Posted by EvoBeardy View Post
If you can spare another fiver on the Mobo, I highly recommend this one:

Asus M4A79XTD-EVO
8+2 phase, heatsinked.

Also Ram wise, it depends if you want 1300MHz or 1600MHz really.

Mushkin Silverline's on that list £34.99 (1333)
I guess the XMS3's or Mushkin Copperhead's are your best bet outta these (1600)

If you go for the XMS3's, the Classic's run at lower volt's for 4 quid more: http://www.scan.co.uk/products/4gb-(...s-9-9-9-24-15v
Or the regular's from the same shop as the Mobo to save you delivery costs: http://www.scan.co.uk/products/4gb-(...-9-24-xmp-165v
cool thanks this mother board is a disaster waiting to happen
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cool thanks this mother board is a disaster waiting to happen
Yeah I've got a new found respect for motherboards and making sure the VRM's are quality, have learnt a helluva lot more than what I already knew prior to coming here to OCN.
The Mobo stuff thanks to everyone keeping on about how important the MOSFET's are, namely xd_1771 and reflex99 with this guide and everyone that contributed to it, but plenty of others also contribute to keeping people aware of their hardware constantly.
 
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I had the same CPU. TBH, 3.6-3.8Ghz is going to be the maximum you will get on air cooling. I say throw some $10 mosfet heatsinks on there and save up more and wait for the 9-series AM3+.

Or, if you really just want a new board now, you should get an AM3 board that will support AM3+ through BIOS update.

Just my 2cents.
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I had the same CPU. TBH, 3.6-3.8Ghz is going to be the maximum you will get on air cooling. I say throw some $10 mosfet heatsinks on there and save up more and wait for the 9-series AM3+.

Or, if you really just want a new board now, you should get an AM3 board that will support AM3+ through BIOS update.

Just my 2cents.
i was thinking that but my 3870x2 cuts across 2 sata ports and makes them unusable its a horribly designed board atm i need a board with good quality VRMs and is full ATX to avoid my current issue with my gpu
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i was thinking that but my 3870x2 cuts across 2 sata ports and makes them unusable its a horribly designed board atm i need a board with good quality VRMs and is full ATX to avoid my current issue with my gpu
Yeah, after I posted, I was curious: What're your future upgrade plans CPU-wise?

If you're more than happy with your Athlon and plan to keep it for a long time, then a good solid board is definitely what you need now and the one I recommended will do brilliantly even if you pick up a cheap Phenom X4 or X6 later on.

However, if you're even considering upgrading to even the quads of BD, I'd recommend holding out a month and/or upping your budget to a solid ton.

There'll be a buncha true AM3+ sockets coming out in the mid-range between now and early June.
This is already out now, cheapest I found it is £89.63 inc VAT: Asus M5A88V-EVO

Fully-fledged AM3+ socket (new socket, not just "compatible with BIOS update), on 880 chipset, core unlocker and all of that stuff.
8+2 phase it looks like, USB3, SATA3 so you can get a good SSD on it when they drop in price later down the line and have full bandwidth.

Only downside is that it's not a 990FX Mobo, they support both CF and SLI natively.

Cracking board, and future-proof for a smidgen more than you plan to fork out on a replacement Mobo though.

That's my recommendation overall, if you're gonna stick with AMD for a while and want the option of going with BD once they revise and drop in price.
Extra 20 quid now for complete upgradeability with current and next-gen AMD processors. Saves you buying a new Mobo+CPU next year/ year after or year after that, if you ask me.
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There'll be a buncha true AM3+ sockets coming out in the mid-range between now and early June.
This is already out now, cheapest I found it is £89.63 inc VAT: Asus M5A88V-EVO

Fully-fledged AM3+ socket (new socket, not just "compatible with BIOS update), on 880 chipset, core unlocker and all of that stuff.
8+2 phase it looks like, USB3, SATA3 so you can get a good SSD on it when they drop in price later down the line and have full bandwidth.

Only downside is that it's not a 990FX Mobo, they support both CF and SLI natively.
I thought the true AM3+ chipsets were the 9-series. The 8-series was released over a year ago.

Also, I don't see what the big deal is with the new sockets. As far as I can tell, they are a different color, and seating your CPU will be easier due to the bigger pin holes. Otherwise, it's the same thing. AM3+ CPUs will fit on an AM3 socket. Perhaps the new 9-series chipsets will actually utilize the new sockets.
Edited by charlie310 - 5/19/11 at 9:10am
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I thought the true AM3+ chipsets were the 9-series. The 8-series was released over a year ago.

Also, I don't see what the big deal is with the new sockets. As far as I can tell, they are a different color, and seating your CPU will be easier due to the bigger pin holes. Otherwise, it's the same thing. AM3+ CPUs will fit on an AM3 socket. Perhaps the new 9-series chipsets will actually utilize the new sockets.
Apparently, the new AM3+ sockets are simply more for efficient power delivery, allowing more current to the CPU (145A vs 110A of AM3), improved LLC (reducing VDroop), less electrical noise and better VID support.

I personally don't know how much of a difference, if any, that will make in OCing or the stability/performance of the new range of CPU's.

The improved 990 chipset will have a netter NB/SB, probably allowing faster data rates and bandwidth, and probable better overclocking capabilities through the bus than the 8-series.

I personally will go for a black socket, to fully utilize every aspect of the upcoming BD's, no matter how trivial. Price difference between boards is marginal, and you're getting newer tech.

If you need a proper AM3+ socket to fully utilize future CPU upgrades and SATA3 peripherals or SSD upgrades or CF, aswell as great power delivery, the 880 AM3+ board for that price is a great deal if you ask me.

I only want a 990FX Mobo 'cos I've never had a high-end motherboard (by today's standards, or knowingly purchased), otherwise I'd be on that 89 quid Asus board like I am my missus.
 
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Yeah, after I posted, I was curious: What're your future upgrade plans CPU-wise?

If you're more than happy with your Athlon and plan to keep it for a long time, then a good solid board is definitely what you need now and the one I recommended will do brilliantly even if you pick up a cheap Phenom X4 or X6 later on.

However, if you're even considering upgrading to even the quads of BD, I'd recommend holding out a month and/or upping your budget to a solid ton.

There'll be a buncha true AM3+ sockets coming out in the mid-range between now and early June.
This is already out now, cheapest I found it is £89.63 inc VAT: Asus M5A88V-EVO

Fully-fledged AM3+ socket (new socket, not just "compatible with BIOS update), on 880 chipset, core unlocker and all of that stuff.
8+2 phase it looks like, USB3, SATA3 so you can get a good SSD on it when they drop in price later down the line and have full bandwidth.

Only downside is that it's not a 990FX Mobo, they support both CF and SLI natively.

Cracking board, and future-proof for a smidgen more than you plan to fork out on a replacement Mobo though.

That's my recommendation overall, if you're gonna stick with AMD for a while and want the option of going with BD once they revise and drop in price.
Extra 20 quid now for complete upgradeability with current and next-gen AMD processors. Saves you buying a new Mobo+CPU next year/ year after or year after that, if you ask me.
only thing I plan on getting is a good phenom II CPU that will be more than meets my gaming needs I just need a realy good but cheap mobo I have found ram to max my current 4gb to 8gb I can get a foxconn cinema delux for £49.99 free postage 8-2 vrm and heat synced so I'm kinda looking at that for a total of £77.97 for the board and ram
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