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Originally Posted by allikat;13785789 
Yep, it'd be a nice rig if the chip was better. Sadly Intel changed sockets again shortly after it was released (to s604). Intel keep pulling that stunt, it's annoying, and keeps me from moving to their chips.

so did you change from s754, s939, s940 & AM2 all while Intel stuck with s775? Intel ain't the only ones that have had multiple sockets...
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Nope, I went from slot A to socket A then to s939, then AM2+ and AM3. The advantage of AM2/2+/3/3+ is that you can do a part upgrade without changing everything in one go.
AM2+ to AM3 required only new board and new memory, am3 to AM3+ needs only a new board. And Intel had s478 as well as 775 during the time you mention.
The thing i get annoyed about is that just as each socket gets to the mainstream market (IE beyond the early adopters) a new one comes out. I was only just seeing C2Q machines in retail when 1156 was released, the same has happened with 1155.
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This is the board they're on. The SuperMicro P4DC6+, with intel i860 chipset.
I love Supermicro for professional boards for servers and workstations, they're just so well designed and built, plus their website has a full archive section.

Added you to the owners club! Welcome!

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Yep, it'd be a nice rig if the chip was better. Sadly Intel changed sockets again shortly after it was released (to s604). Intel keep pulling that stunt, it's annoying, and keeps me from moving to their chips.

While it's true, the_beast also has a point. That socket change you refer to is probably in paralell to what Intel did with the desktop 423 to 478 socket, but then they kept the 478 socket from 2001 all the way to 2004, when socket 775 appeared. And socket 775 went from 2004 all the way to 2008, when socket 1366 was presented.
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so did you change from s754, s939, s940 & AM2 all while Intel stuck with s775? Intel ain't the only ones that have had multiple sockets...
 
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You're right tpi. Intel used to (usually) stick with a socket much longer. It's the fact they don't any more that annoys me enough to not spend money with them. Sorry to pollute the thread with this argument.
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Nope, I went from slot A to socket A then to s939, then AM2+ and AM3. The advantage of AM2/2+/3/3+ is that you can do a part upgrade without changing everything in one go.
AM2+ to AM3 required only new board and new memory, am3 to AM3+ needs only a new board. And Intel had s478 as well as 775 during the time you mention.
The thing i get annoyed about is that just as each socket gets to the mainstream market (IE beyond the early adopters) a new one comes out. I was only just seeing C2Q machines in retail when 1156 was released, the same has happened with 1155.

For the Intel camp, whe had the AsRock 775 DualVsta. Legendary board. Could work with either AGP or PCIe GPU's, and with either DDR or DDR2. Was a nice way to transition, even though the chipset was not exactly perfect. But then again, for the price it was pretty good.

As to Core 2 Quad machines on retail, you are not quite right. And the socket that first appeared was the high-end 1366, not the 1156.

Anyway, the Core 2 Quad Q6600 started selling in 2007, while the Nehalems only started selling in November 2008. You are probably refering to 45nm Core 2 Quads that went on sale in 2008. But then again, you have to bear in mind they were in different performance leagues. Besides, someone with a 775 platform would better upgrade to a Core 2 Quad than to jump on the 1366 unless he really needed some of the features.

The 1156 platform only showed up in September 2009 though. In the meantime, socket 775 was pretty much the mainstream platform.
 
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pentium 4LGA7753.60GHzSL7Z5
Celeron DLGA7753.06GHzSL9BR
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Take your pick.. I don't have a CPUz of them because I don't have the appropriate motherboard for them. I may have a few others kicking around that aren't on that list.
Edit: I did just find an AMD AM7910DC
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post #137 of 368
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Originally Posted by allikat;13786883 
You're right tpi. Intel used to (usually) stick with a socket much longer. It's the fact they don't any more that annoys me enough to not spend money with them. Sorry to pollute the thread with this argument.

No worries thumb.gif , I'm all for a good and healthy discussion!

You shouldn't think of it like that, just skip a whole generation. That's what I normally do. I usually pick the tick cycle (shrinking of process technology of the previous microarchitecture). I don't usually jump on the latest and greatest but on the revised and better platform / CPU wink.gif
 
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post #138 of 368
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Nope, I went from slot A to socket A then to s939, then AM2+ and AM3. The advantage of AM2/2+/3/3+ is that you can do a part upgrade without changing everything in one go.
AM2+ to AM3 required only new board and new memory, am3 to AM3+ needs only a new board. And Intel had s478 as well as 775 during the time you mention.
The thing i get annoyed about is that just as each socket gets to the mainstream market (IE beyond the early adopters) a new one comes out. I was only just seeing C2Q machines in retail when 1156 was released, the same has happened with 1155.

s478 ran against s462 (sA), not s754/s939, so it's not really fair to add it to the comparison. Intel had only 1 consumer socket from 2004 right up until 2008 when 1366 was released, and even then there were still new s775 CPUs brought out. And during that time you didn't need to upgrade anything but your CPU - the same RAM (and in some cases) the same boards etc would all work.

C2Qs came out in 2007, 1156 didn't land for another 2 years. How long do you want to wait? How did you not notice the quads in those 2 years? That can hardly be considered 'early adopters only'.

1156 was always known to be shortlived, but it still managed almost 2 years. Which was about how long s939 managed...

The point I'm trying to make is that all platforms go through change, and AMD is just as guilty as Intel. I think s775 spoiled people really as it lasted so long, and that's why people get a little up in arms about it.
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C2D E6600LGA7752.40GHzSL9S8
Pentium 4LGA7753.00GHzSL7PU
Pentium 4LGA7753.00GHzSL94Y
Pentium 4LGA7753.00GHzSL7Z9
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Celeron DLGA7753.06GHzSL9BR
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Pentium 4PGA4783.00GHzSL6WK
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Pentium 4PGA4782.40GHzSL6EF
Pentium 4PGA4781.70GHzSL68C
Pentium IIIPGA370866MHzSL49H
Pentium IIIPGA370800MHzSL4CD


Take your pick.. I don't have a CPUz of them because I don't have the appropriate motherboard for them. I may have a few others kicking around that aren't on that list.
Edit: I did just find an AMD AM7910DC


Wow! That is one amazing collection of CPU's you've got there. Unfortunately none of them are rare. However, with so many Pentium 4's you are more than entitled to join the Intel Pentium 4/D & Celeron/D owner's Thread .

Oh, by the way, what is that AMD AM7910DC ? Couldn't find any info on whether it's a CPU or a chipset.
 
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AMD did (when they had their own chip foundry) make other chips for other purposes.
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