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I think the A8-3550 is the sweet spot. Low TDP, same GPU. It might not be unlocked, but there are other ways to overclock
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post #82 of 105
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It most certainly did not. Your method of comparison is faulty.
My method of comparison is comparing end results, not basing the quality or value of a product off the number of cores it has.

Also, LOL at selective quoting. Quite the asinine little monkey aren't you?

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Cores doesn't really matter in application do they? If these only end up matching their Intel counterparts I will be sorely disappointed, especially with the similarity in pricing.
The full quote in full context. But nice try. If I were comparing Bulldozer to bulldozer you might have a case, but this is just foolishness.

Edit: Furthermore, the fact that you even compared the number of cores between CPUs using the same architecture, in attempt to retort, shows your failure to comprehend my post. Honestly, I'd be surprised if you claimed you even read all of it.
Edited by geoxile - 5/20/11 at 12:58pm
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post #83 of 105
AMD is really getting back in the game. Let's hope their 7000 series graphics cards follow suit.

p.s -- Let's leave the flaming to other threads, shall we?
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My method of comparison is comparing end results, not basing the quality or value of a product off the number of cores it has.

Also, LOL at selective quoting. Quite the asinine little monkey aren't you?



The full quote in full context. But nice try. If I were comparing Bulldozer to bulldozer you might have a case, but this is just foolishness.

Edit: Furthermore, the fact that you even compared the number of cores between CPUs using the same architecture, in attempt to retort, shows your failure to comprehend my post. Honestly, I'd be surprised if you claimed you even read all of it.
Of course I read your post, your method of comparison is faulty, as I've said. I also based my comparison off of end results, how is video encoding performance not an and result?

In order to determine without a doubt if more cores have an end result of greater performance, we must compare processors that are the same in all other aspects (not really possible), or at the very least, in the same family. Do you know how scientists conduct experiments? They control all other aspects while changing one factor. Otherwise your results are not legitimate. The fact that you've determined cores do not matter shows me this.

There is NO POINT comparing Thubans to quad-core SB when determining the validity of hex core and multi-core designs. The performance differences are largely due to the architecture advantages of the SB processors.
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Of course I read your post, your method of comparison is faulty, as I've said. I also based my comparison off of end results, how is video encoding performance not an and result?

In order to determine without a doubt if more cores have an end result of greater performance, we must compare processors that are the same in all other aspects (not really possible), or at the very least, in the same family. Do you know how scientists conduct experiments? They control all other aspects while changing one factor. Otherwise your results are not legitimate. The fact that you've determined cores do not matter shows me this.

There is NO POINT comparing Thubans to quad-core SB when determining the validity of hex core and multi-core designs. The performance differences are largely due to the architecture advantages of the SB processors.
And once again woosh. Is this really so far over your head you cannot understand even after I've explained it to you?

Also, lol at your little tirade on objective comparison. Please, just hold your tongue. Flaunting will get you no where, especially when you reveal such idealistic inexperience with the topic.

You insist that I've been stating number of cores is universally unimportant, despite the fact that I've given clear context in the original text, re-stated and explained my intent upon my first response, and quoted myself once with important context in bold. Once more, I am comparing cores in regard to BD vs. Sandy Bridge.

Ok, go ahead, continue to deviate. And as much as I hate to say it, strawman much? The point was never to question the validity of multi-core designs, it was to question your valuing of a CPU with 8-cores.

From a realistic standpoint, 8-cores at $320 is nothing impressive when the competition may be able to offer the same performance at the same price, regardless of different design.
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Like talking to a brick wall. I never said anything about my opinion on the value of 8-core CPUs. You're the one holding hands with that straw man, not me.
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Like talking to a brick wall. I never said anything about my opinion on the value of 8-core CPUs. You're the one holding hands with that straw man, not me.
Oh you're right. It's not your opinion that you're defending, though it would be reasonable to believe that you were consenting. Though on the other hand this would explain why you had to make things up about my statement.
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If these price points are correct, it almost certainly implies that Ivy Bridge is notably faster.
of course Ivy Bridge will be faster, its 22nm and a year away
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Insecure Intel fan?
Uncalled for. I JUST bought this rig. I was rockin' (or still am) a 1090T before this. Keep your "oh you don't agree, you must be a fanboy" crap out of this forum. I'm a fan of whatever is FASTER OR more worth my money. A year ago at this time, it was AMD. Right now, it's Intel. Get the hell off your high horse.


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I didn't say it would be faster... I merely offered one of two possible scenarios.
Your wording didn't offer it as a "Scenario". You said it like it was true. Your wording spoke for itself. You said it "will" be faster, not it "could" be.
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I built and sold a few rigs this year but nothing I wanted to keep as I've been waiting for Bulldozer's release. Intel hit a homer with SB but I was hoping for even more bang for my buck from AMD. I'll wait for the benchies but this spreadsheet isn't impressing me... I've waited what feels like an eternity for nothing more than a what APPEARS to be a match to Intel's performance
    
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