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Why is anyone even posting reveiws from this site? Do we not remember the last fiasco! [H] pretty much blows as far as im concerned!
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Guru3d article about the same setups

tells a different story.
Mhm, because a two-month old Guru3D article is more relevant to our interests than a review by [H] posted yesterday, right?
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as expected and kudos to amd.

I hope nvidia's future gtx 690 packs more than 2gb per core (hopefully 3gb per core), better vrm, and higher stock clocks. Maybe they should go back to a dual pcb dual-gpu setup a'la GTX 295 d-pcb and 9800x2 .
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I love my nvidia cards, but I feel sorry for anyone who went with a 590.
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I hope nvidia's future gtx 690 packs more than 2gb per core (hopefully 3gb per core)
If they continue using the same memory bandwidth, they can't use 2GB. It's either 1.5 or 3GB.

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Originally Posted by steadly2004 View Post
Why don't they do a 4x 3gb gtx580 vs 4x 6970, or is that even possible?
4 6970s have problems with their crossfire bridge's limited bandwidth at multi-monitor resolutions. The 4th card has to transfer data between the 3rd and 2nd in order to reach the 1st. The 3rd has to pass it's own data plus the 4th on to the 2nd and so on. You also need the 6990 to eliminate the screen tearing with 6970's mix-matched ports.

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its not a fair comparison because the 590 has 3GB of ram while the 6990 has 4GB
6990 has like 200mhz more than the 590 and even than it still loses at some games
The RAM doesn't combine like that. It's still 1.5 and 2GB per GPU. SLI/Xfire doesn't double up the total memory.
At least the 6990 can still OC to get even better results. But don't compare clock speeds to one another because they don't give the same result at the same clock.

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Originally Posted by jrbroad77 View Post
Nvidia screwed up throwing 2 $400-500 gpu's on a $700 card. Simple. All I can say is, I hope they had fire extinguishers nearby for the 590 SLI test.
Nah, all they screwed up on was the VRMs. Those are dual 580 GPUs downclocked. With proper VRMs they would be able to get a ton more performance. It's not a heat issue, it's a poor voltage regulation issue.

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Originally Posted by ]\\/[EGADET]-[ View Post
take a closer look, they posted max playable settings for each card. 60fps is cake.
Nah, they could barely handle 60fps and settings weren't even maxed out in games:




BC2:"we weren't able to get GTX 590 SLI working at 5760x1200"
Edited by PoopaScoopa - 5/20/11 at 5:04pm
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I love my nvidia cards, but I feel sorry for anyone who went with a 590.
x2
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I love my nvidia cards, but I feel sorry for anyone who went with a 590.
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x2
Why? Don't like 120 FPS + in most games? Folding on 4 GPUs? Or all the other benefits like CUDA, Surround, and PhysX?
Edited by RagingCain - 5/20/11 at 5:55pm
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post #78 of 134
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Nah, they could barely handle 60fps and settings weren't even maxed out in games
I guess it's how you look at it. 24AA @ 5760x1200? hah who needs that. It's cool that it can perform that well at stock. The 6990's were in normal bios mode 830 core / 5Ghz ram and x8 x8. I think I was in that mode for about 10 minutes before I couldnt help but flip the switch, this is Overclock.net after all. So then the oc'n started. At 1025 core / 6Ghz ram now in quadfire and the performance increase is extremely noticable.

Watercooling cards like this is almost a given. If you arn't going to do that, personally I wouldn't bother. Especially two.

Another review Id like to see is quadfire/sli tri screen tests at both x8 x8 and x16 x16. I bet you anything that these cards will show a significant performance difference at that massive rez with af and aa.

and I agree with ragingcain, both still have very immature drivers but they are quickly getting better and they better keep it up too.
Edited by ]\/[EGADET]-[ - 5/20/11 at 6:18pm
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Why? Don't like 120 FPS + in most games? Folding on 4 GPUs? Or all the other benefits like CUDA, Surround, and PhysX?
+120fps
Compared to that review you'r not exactly getting "120 FPS + in most games" but never mind. I don't benefit from anything over 60 fps since my screen is 60 Hz and even if I had 120 Hz monitor I would only benefit from it playing fps games, but in the end you really don't notice a whole lot of difference playing fps games @ 120 fps since their run just fine and perfectly fine at 60 fps.

Folding
If I was worrying about Folding I would only have 2 CPU's per card, and would probably just go for plenty of single slots GTS450's.

Cuda
Don't need CUDA, don't use it.

Surround
Doesn't ATi have something similar so not a really good argument.

PhysX
PhysX is dead.

Problem?
Edited by CULLEN - 5/20/11 at 6:17pm
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+120fps
Compared to that review you'r not exactly getting "120 FPS + in most games" but never mind. I don't benefit from anything over 60 fps since my screen is 60 Hz and even if I had 120 Hz monitor I would only benefit from it playing fps games, but in the end you really don't notice a whole lot of difference playing fps games @ 120 fps since their run just fine and perfectly fine at 60 fps.

Folding
If I was worrying about Folding I would only have 2 CPU's per card, and would probably just go for plenty of single slots GTS450's.

Cuda
Don't need CUDA, don't use it.

Surround
Doesn't ATi have something similar so not a really good argument.

PhysX
PhysX is dead.

Problem?
Perhaps I should have said 3D Surround, and 3D Vision if you want. I know of no other single nVidia GPU that can run 3 monitors.

I generally don't game in 3 monitors except in titles that have very low VRAM usage such as games like Devil May Cry 4, Supreme Commander 2, and The Sims 3. I can't play in FPS either with multi-monitors competitively so I stick to my center monitor with is 120 Hz. I generally get way better performance than any review I have ever read. When you know your system, you can fine tune it way better than a guy has for however long he has the cards for a review does.

In DevilMayCry 4 with all the eyecandy I am generally about 150~250 fps @ 5760 x 1080, 16xCSAA, and Very High for example.

Crysis for example which is close to the VRAM wall hits right about 50 FPS, dipping every so often when I hit the vram wall down to the 20s and back up again, all on max settings and 5760x1080, and I like playing Crysis at that resolution to make wall papers.

I use CUDA for BOINC and I am also learning CUDA programming language myself. So its a perk to me. Just because you don't use it, doesn't mean its not a feature.

You said you felt sorry for us, which is stupid thing to say. Nothing to feel sorry about, the cards destroy most setups performance wise. The only people you should feel sorry for are those who got a bum card that has to be RMAed.
Edited by RagingCain - 5/20/11 at 6:33pm
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