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EDIT: A third review!

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EDIT: Another review!

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Corsair/CX430_V2/1.html


http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/1284
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Conclusions

The Corsair CX430 V2 proved to be an outstanding product

Basically Corsair upgraded a couple parts to make this 80Plus certified.

The V2 was able to run at full load with near 50ºC ambients. This should shut up complaints that Corsair "rates" it at 30ºC (but of course this being the internets...).

I also stand by what I said about the original. Doesn't matter how much or little +12v it puts out. If it can put out the 430W it claims to put out, it is a 430W PSU.

To everyone else who still "am disappoint" go pound some sand. If Corsair made it any better, then they would have to name it a VX430 or TX430 or something like that, and then good luck with snagging one for under $50.

I am glad that we have such a decent under $50 PSU. Seems like the hard price hasn't gone over $45 or so on the original, while the rebated price varied between $15-35.

With the V2, right now it is $45 before rebate and $25 after rebate. Compare that with the Antec NEO ECO 400C at $50 with no rebates. Both have same shipping cost. Sure, the 400C is a "better" PSU, but it is not worth 2x the cost for me (I'm good with rebates).

Then again, I'll snag a 400C in a heartbeat if it is under $30 shipped after rebate. biggrin.gif
Edited by Zap - 5/25/11 at 2:44pm
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It's a good PSU, but I still don't think it should be labeled a 430w in this day and age.
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I know you know and understand this, but the only issue with Corsair calling it a 430W unit is not about whether it can or cannot deliver 430W. Everybody will agree that it can. The issue is that there's no way you'll get 430W out of it without an ATE.

Corsair is only calling it a 430W as a marketing scheme. They discontinued the superior CX400 and didn't want to look like they were replacing it with an inferior product by calling the CX430 a CX380 or CX350 for example. That would have been the honest thing to do with regards to the power loads observed in a modern computer, but people not in the know would not understand why they scrapped the CX400 and put out a CX380 instead.

That doesn't mean I won't recommend it to anybody whenever appropriate. I know and agree it's a good unit for the price, I just disagree with your stance on how Corsair labeled it smile.gif
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I bought this PSU on Tuesday to use in a build for a family member (only for basic browsing and the occasional video). The rig was built yesterday and the PSU runs as it should and is relatively quiet. No complaints at all here. Due to time constraints I had to purchase the PSU from amazon for $35 after MIR which isn't bad at all IMO.
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In addition to what's been said, what of the many complaints of quality and of the noise while the PC is off? Here are some quick examples from Newegg (admittedly, these came from reviews of the first version, so I'm not sure if the second one has fixed these, we shall see).
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When Computer off, this power supply makes whistling sound, you can hear when you are sleeping next to computer at night. Which indicates Poor Design of converting power. Generally this type of signal comes when Square Wave is generated in circuit but here, this sound comes when computer is off and power supply is powered. Not Acceptable Design, specially when Brand Name company goes in to Production.

- Quality Control is Poor, I received a power supply where from back side Screen/Grill I can see that Blue Color 110/220 V wire which goes to Circuit Board is not soldered properly and solder is also DRY solder. Having Dry Solder in Main wire is Risky and can create Fire at long use with Load.
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It makes an annoying audible humming sound. For $15 on Black Friday I figured it was worth the risk.

The noise comes and goes like a sine wave and its comparable to the buzz you would hear from speakers getting feedback.

Its not loud enough that you can't ignore it, but it’s not quite enough to forget about it either. Overall it’s just a major nuisance and I have to shut off the computer at night when my ears are more tuned into any noises.
Okay, I know Newegg reviews aren't usually a "legit" source, so don't blast me for it, but it's an example, and when the Thermaltake TR2 430W is getting rave reviews from people who know no better and yet is pretty mediocre, it makes me wonder how this unit is getting feedback like this...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=17-139-017&SortField=3&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Keywords=%28keywords%29&Page=1#scrollFullInfo

That's alot of bad complaints about numerous issues. Noise when the PSU is off, less warranty (do they not stand behind/trust it as much?), questionable longevity/quality, complaints about the fan (being sleeve bearing and not lasting as long or whatever), many DOA units, no rebates fulfilled, etc. The wattage rating is just one among a few.

I saw the positive reviews from Oklahoma Wolf and Gabe about the first one, but it still seems iffy to me to want to recommend it with the quirks/feedback it has.

It's not a bad little PSU, but it's plagued by some bad little problems.
Edited by Princess Garnet - 5/20/11 at 8:34am
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it makes me wonder how this unit is getting feedback like this...
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That's alot of bad complaints about numerous issues. Noise when the PSU is off, less warranty (do they not stand behind/trust it as much?), questionable longevity/quality, complaints about the fan (being sleeve bearing and not lasting as long or whatever), many DOA units, no rebates fulfilled, etc. The wattage rating is just one among a few.

You will see rebate complaints on any product that is frequently rebated.

Yes, there did seem to be some build quality issues.

Wattage rating, fan bearings, longevity concerns are all a matter of expectations that people had for Corsair to magically imbue a $45 PSU with $70 quality.
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Shub you trippin. For the price, I can't even believe it's possible.
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Is the Neo Eco 400C even that better in appreciable ways, aside from say not using Samxon caps and having a ball bearing fan? The original CX430 had good voltage regulation and noise/ripple control, and the outputs look at least as good this time around with the V2.

Note that Gabe's CX430 overloaded to 600 mV ripple on +12V, while the CX430 V2 actually shut down while still in spec. Nice.

Although the V2 is still rated for 28A on 12V, the beefier rectifiers and overload results all the way to 36A on +12V seem to suggest that they could have bumped up the 28A rating a little if they wanted. There's no way the original CX430 could be rated for 28A while this one can't be rated any higher, unless the limiting factor is something else. Either the CX430 V2 value is too low, the CX430 is too high, or both. So I don't think you can even knock the CX430 V2 for having low +12V capacity compared to the total wattage.
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Whether it's Corsair or not has nothing to do with it... The average modern rig is not going to draw more than around 50w from the 3.3v and 5v combined unless you have loads of HDD's, so the 336w on the +12v makes it an overrated unit. I'm pretty sure you know this already, so I don't know why you're being stubborn about it. confused.gif

Would you still see no problem if the CX430 had 250w on the +12v, but was still labeled a 430w?
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Originally Posted by Zap;13579717 
Wattage rating, fan bearings, longevity concerns are all a matter of expectations that people had for Corsair to magically imbue a $45 PSU with $70 quality.

That's true, many people did expect a lot from it, but that isn't the point either. I'm not expecting a $45 PSU with $70 quality, and labeling it a CX380 instead of a CX430 doesn't change the price or make it a $70 PSU.
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Well, Antec labeled their VP-450 as a 450W even though it only has 360W available on the 12V rail. I don't recall anyone up in arms about that, but oh well. Though I don't disagree that it's ok to do that, Corsair aren't the only ones.
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