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Originally Posted by Smirnoff;13583308 
Well, Antec labeled their VP-450 as a 450W even though it only has 360W available on the 12V rail. I don't recall anyone up in arms about that, but oh well. Though I don't disagree that it's ok to do that, Corsair aren't the only ones.

This.
Plus the fact it's a $45 power supply that comes with sleeved cables, looks decent and can do it's rated power in spec at borderline 80+bronze level with good ripple suppression and voltage regulation.
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Originally Posted by Smirnoff;13583308 
Well, Antec labeled their VP-450 as a 450W even though it only has 360W available on the 12V rail. I don't recall anyone up in arms about that, but oh well. Though I don't disagree that it's ok to do that, Corsair aren't the only ones.

No one even recommends the VP-450.
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Is the Neo Eco 400C even that better in appreciable ways, aside from say not using Samxon caps and having a ball bearing fan? The original CX430 had good voltage regulation and noise/ripple control, and the outputs look at least as good this time around with the V2.

Note that Gabe's CX430 overloaded to 600 mV ripple on +12V, while the CX430 V2 actually shut down while still in spec. Nice.

Although the V2 is still rated for 28A on 12V, the beefier rectifiers and overload results all the way to 36A on +12V seem to suggest that they could have bumped up the 28A rating a little if they wanted. There's no way the original CX430 could be rated for 28A while this one can't be rated any higher, unless the limiting factor is something else. Either the CX430 V2 value is too low, the CX430 is too high, or both. So I don't think you can even knock the CX430 V2 for having low +12V capacity compared to the total wattage.

The caps used in the NEO ECO are a grab bag. Yes there are some United Chemi-cons, but there are also some OSTs and other crap. I consider Samxons to be very good caps overall. Maybe not as good as Rubycon, Panasonic, Nichicon etc., but no where near OSTs, Su'scons, or Ltecs. Samxon 'GF' doesn't have to best reputation, true, but they have most likely fixed any problems they were having with them anyway....Corsair is most likely getting the 'GF's for very cheap since they are an older series.
Edited by TheLaw - 5/21/11 at 6:44am
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Originally Posted by TheLaw;13580355 
Shub you trippin. For the price, I can't even believe it's possible.

Why am I "trippin"? tongue.gif
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Originally Posted by Zap;13579717 
You will see rebate complaints on any product that is frequently rebated.

Yes, there did seem to be some build quality issues.

Wattage rating, fan bearings, longevity concerns are all a matter of expectations that people had for Corsair to magically imbue a $45 PSU with $70 quality.
Someone can throw around all the load numbers and voltage ripple they want, but when it's got other issues like it does, forget it. It might by a few small issues, but they add up (the noise when the PSU is off seems to be a big one, along with some quality/DOA complaints). I'm not saying they add up to make it an outright terrible PSU (it does perform very well), but I wouldn't choose one as it stands.
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Another review! I'll add link to the OP.
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Originally Posted by mikeaj;13582191 
Is the Neo Eco 400C even that better in appreciable ways, aside from say not using Samxon caps and having a ball bearing fan?

It is quieter. For those that care, it is made by SeaSonic.
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Originally Posted by GameBoy;13582783 
The average modern rig is not going to draw more than around 50w from the 3.3v and 5v combined unless you have loads of HDD's, so the 336w on the +12v makes it an overrated unit. I'm pretty sure you know this already, so I don't know why you're being stubborn about it. confused.gif

Simple. Can it put out 430W? Yes. What does the label say? 430W. Ergo, not overrated.

It totally doesn't make sense to say that it would be overrated in one system that is +12v heavy while not in another based on how it is used. By your logic, if someone used, say, a SeaSonic X650 on an old Athlon or Pentium III system that doesn't draw much +12v, then the X650 is "overrated."
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Originally Posted by GameBoy;13582783 
Would you still see no problem if the CX430 had 250w on the +12v, but was still labeled a 430w?

As long as it can put out 430W, no problem.
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Originally Posted by Smirnoff;13583308 
Well, Antec labeled their VP-450 as a 450W even though it only has 360W available on the 12V rail. I don't recall anyone up in arms about that, but oh well.

OMG! Grab the pitchforks and torches, boys, there's gonna be a barn burnin'!
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Originally Posted by Princess Garnet;13584310 
It might by a few small issues, but they add up (the noise when the PSU is off seems to be a big one, along with some quality/DOA complaints).

That information is useless without knowing the rate at which these issues are popping up. We won't know that unless Corsair releases some sales and RMA rate info, which is unlikely. Are 50% of the units affected? 20%? Those rates would be pretty bad. 5%? That's not too terrible.
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It totally doesn't make sense to say that it would be overrated in one system that is +12v heavy while not in another based on how it is used. By your logic, if someone used, say, a SeaSonic X650 on an old Athlon or Pentium III system that doesn't draw much +12v, then the X650 is "overrated."

confused.gif The CX430 was not intended to power an old Athlon/PIII rig, otherwise the +5v would be much more beefier. It does not cross-load well, either.....so it is clearly intended to power modern +12v heavy rigs.

I understand that the whole backlash surrounding the CX430 was blown completely out of proportion... but 336w +12v capacity is a little low for a 430w unit by todays standards.

Forget about it though, we're gonna have to agree to disagree, 'cause we're going around in circles here.

Edit: With all that said, it's a good PSU, and I have been recommending it a few times.
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post #18 of 30
They beefed up the +12V rectifiers in the CX430v2 anyway, so I'm no longer complaining.

Though the bridge rectifier could have been rated 2A higher... No, no longer complaining, forget I said it.
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Does anyone know if the CX500 and/or CX600 are going to be reviewed?
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