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Originally Posted by Ceadderman;13580758 
Can someone get me a pair of waders? The river fan is starting to crest and I'll need them to get to the other side without getting soaked. mellowsmiley.gif

Seriously though. How can people make assumptions about the performance of Bulldozer CPUs' when there is nothing defining said performance? And then to compare this performance to Sandy Bridge? blinksmiley.gif

~Ceadder:drink:

Because the people making assumptions can see into the future.

I'm not saying Bulldozer will or will not out perform Intel's current lineup, i'm saying this is all pointless because no one knows anything about it's performance.
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meh. cpus always have a high start price. then it goes down a bit. this might be the over all price but id expect the retail sticker to be a lil higher lol
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post #53 of 59
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Originally Posted by Furrby;13580128 
People stop making pointless acquisition's.

At the risk of sounding like a bastard (I'm just playing with you), what are we acquiring? =P
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Originally Posted by Brutuz;13580313 
AMD could want to utterly destroy Intel by having faster chips for cheaper.

That might happen but it's as unlikely as Zimbabwe destroying Saudi Arabia with low oil prices. Intel is an absolute behemoth compared to AMD and it would be foolish for them to try and flood the market with cheap processors to score a win. I'm quite sure Intel would happily cut a $100 from the price of their processors without batting an eyelid.
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Pricing the same, but beating the chips by quite a bit.

I guess the difference was that Pentium 4 was rubbish. Sandy Bridge is not rubbish and it'd be unlikely AMD can pull that kind of rabbit out of a hat.
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And if you want proof of companies pricing low to get more sales? HD4xx0.

Good point =) I'll argue however that Nvidia was on their ridiculous rebranding streak and was asleep at the time.
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Pricing doesn't have anything to do with how fast the chip is

I think as this isn't true as a rule but the idea does have some merit. Intel Extreme Editions have always been priced at a silly point but I think they rely on the ultra-enthusiast and the consummate professional to 'fess up the cash and get them. I mean, the 990X is still more expensive than the similar performing 2600K.
post #54 of 59
I think you guys are missing the point. All I'm seeing after reading 3 or so pages is "I don't think Bulldozer can compete with Sandy/Ivy Bridge" just because of the price tag.

I jumped for joy knowing that a NEXT GEN processor is going to be priced affordably for us current AMD users so we can upgrade. Sure it might not be able to kill a 2600K but considering the new architecture and features of the new processor, it will be a very nice upgrade from, say, my current processor.
post #55 of 59
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Originally Posted by uncholowapo;13581845 
I think you guys are missing the point. All I'm seeing after reading 3 or so pages is "I don't think Bulldozer can compete with Sandy/Ivy Bridge" just because of the price tag.

I jumped for joy knowing that a NEXT GEN processor is going to be priced affordably for us current AMD users so we can upgrade. Sure it might not be able to kill a 2600K but considering the new architecture and features of the new processor, it will be a very nice upgrade from, say, my current processor.

Why not just get a sandy bridge then?
post #56 of 59
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Originally Posted by NrGx;13581120 
That might happen but it's as unlikely as Zimbabwe destroying Saudi Arabia with low oil prices. Intel is an absolute behemoth compared to AMD and it would be foolish for them to try and flood the market with cheap processors to score a win. I'm quite sure Intel would happily cut a $100 from the price of their processors without batting an eyelid.

A behemoth that only truly had a complete and utter win over AMD with the Core 2 Duo, every other chip before then except the K5...Well, AMD was extremely close and/or ahead.
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I guess the difference was that Pentium 4 was rubbish. Sandy Bridge is not rubbish and it'd be unlikely AMD can pull that kind of rabbit out of a hat.

True, but you have to keep in mind that at its heart, Phenom II is an extremely tweaked Athlon. (Athlon became Athlon XP, which was tweaked significantly into Athlon64, which became Phenom then Phenom II.)
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Good point =) I'll argue however that Nvidia was on their ridiculous rebranding streak and was asleep at the time.

True enough, while I doubt Intel engineers will fall asleep at the wheel and make Pentium 4v2, remember that Bulldozer was started something like 7 years ago, they've been working on this for a long time. (Compare to Conroe or Nehalem, Intel spent a long time working on those too)
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Originally Posted by NrGx;13581120 
I think as this isn't true as a rule but the idea does have some merit. Intel Extreme Editions have always been priced at a silly point but I think they rely on the ultra-enthusiast and the consummate professional to 'fess up the cash and get them. I mean, the 990X is still more expensive than the similar performing 2600K.

As a rule, no, but I think that relative performance comes last when you compare prices, I think AMD is more likely to price low to make up for their slightly worse chipsets (SATA, USB, etc performance is generally lower than Intels) and need to compete with Intels current flagship, hell, BD might have a small die (as someone said) and AMD might have a 16 core version waiting for SB-ENs launch for all we know.
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric;13581958 
Why not just get a sandy bridge then?

Because we don't know BD is faster, unless its a complete fail like the Phenom I, Intel will at the very least lower prices on their chips.
Edited by Brutuz - 5/21/11 at 3:51am
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Each man to his own opinion I guess. I'm pretty excited about bulldozer's release. And honestly, the pricing is super good on this product. They actually make a kick ass processor affordable.

Even if I don't end up upgrading to bulldozer, I still think it will be a great product that will lead to so many other advancements in technology.
     
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post #58 of 59
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Because we don't know BD isn't faster...

Fixed. wink.gif

~Ceadder:drink:
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post #59 of 59
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Why not just get a sandy bridge then?

Didn't I just outline that in the second paragraph? kookoo.gif

When I'm not gaming, I'm doing work in Revit, Cinema 4D, Inventor and also video editing. Rendering complex architectual scenes and 3D models, using inventors stress testing suite, and encoding video can get really CPU intensive which means I need more than 4 cores with 4 weak logical cores. Before I sold my 1055t to pay off some bills, my render times would be beautiful and encoding videos to h264 in high quality settings always saw great FPS.

In short, I need moar cores and when a new 8 core CPU is at a price point where my weak paycheck can suffice, I will snag it in a second.
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