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The GTX 580 consumes a bit over 150W with the limiter on.
GTX 580 easily consumes more than 200W in games. The power limiter will limit power consumption to around 300W max. That chart is misleading. It shows a GTX 460 consumes more power than a GTX 580. My guess is the chart shows Furmark or OCCT power consumption which explains why the GTX 460 draws more power on that chart. GTX 460 has no special power limiter for Furmark and OCCT.
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so far from what i gather from the bickering is i can run it as long as im not OCing it but could do with a PSU upgrade when i can and @thealex132 my PSU has 41 amps on the +12 Volt maybe you should read my post and look at what i said

Thanks guys for the information so far now im not so worried but am planing on getting a new PSU when i can
    
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IS IT POWER YOU WANT... . . . ?

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GTX 580 easily consumes more than 200W in games. The power limiter will limit power consumption to around 300W max. That chart is misleading. It shows a GTX 460 consumes more power than a GTX 580. My guess is the chart shows Furmark or OCCT power consumption which explains why the GTX 460 draws more power on that chart. GTX 460 has no special power limiter for Furmark and OCCT.
Did you even attempt to read what I said?

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His current PSU will be just fine as long as he doesn't remove the limiter.
It obviously won't consume more than 200W in games with the limiter on.
    
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so far from what i gather from the bickering is i can run it as long as im not OCing it but could do with a PSU upgrade when i can and @thealex132 my PSU has 41 amps on the +12 Volt maybe you should read my post and look at what i said

Thanks guys for the information so far now im not so worried but am planing on getting a new PSU when i can
Your PSU will be just fine. Leave your CPU OCed if you want, but don't remove the limiter on the GTX 580.
    
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Did you even attempt to read what I said?



It obviously won't consume more than 200W in games with the limiter on.

I believe that the limiter only applies to things like Furmark and OCCT, if so the 580 will without a doubt be pulling more than 150w during gaming, I believe it was around 225w IRC.
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Did you even attempt to read what I said?



It obviously won't consume more than 200W in games with the limiter on.
Because you know everything?

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I believe that the limiter only applies to things like Furmark and OCCT, if so the 580 will without a doubt be pulling more than 150w during gaming, I believe it was around 225w IRC.
This. That's why there is a bypass in furmark for GTX 5xx cards, and thats why GTX 5xx cards do so 'well' at furmark temp tests, hence it isn't used anymore.

There is no switch to enable or disable it, it just happens under certain extreme loads/temps/programs.
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I believe that the limiter only applies to things like Furmark and OCCT so the 580 will without a doubt be pulling more than 150w during gaming, I believe it was around 225w IRC.
The limiter works with the drivers by looking at what power consumption the card is pulling and, if it exceeds it, it throttles the card (at least from what I remember). There was a specific list NVIDIA made and it included Furmark and some other programs. It can be removed, though. Also, even if it's around 225W gaming it's just fine. The picture doesn't change much.

150+225+50: 425W ATW. The PSU will have to produce around 340W. Still fine.
    
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The limiter works with the drivers by looking at what power consumption the card is pulling and, if it exceeds it, it throttles the card (at least from what I remember). There was a specific list NVIDIA made and it included Furmark and some other programs. It can be removed, though. Also, even if it's around 225W gaming it's just fine. The picture doesn't change much.

150+225+50: 425W ATW. The PSU will have to produce around 340W. Still fine.
Yes but last I have heard there were not any games on that listed of throttles programs, so it may as well not have the limiter at all in gaming. And I don't know about the other number that you are using (150 and 50) but that 225w for the 580 is not at the wall, that's the power the card draws.

OP I might make a thread asking this in the PSU section and see what people say there as well.
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Yes but last I have heard there were not any games on that listed of throttles programs, so it may as well not have the limiter at all in gaming.

OP I might make a thread asking this in the PSU section and see what people say there as well.
The latest NVIDIA drivers, from what I remember, throttle cards based on what power consumption they detect. Arguing over this is a moot point, anyway, since even if the card produces 225W at the wall the PSU will only have to produce around 340W. What continues to be argued is irrelevant to the question in the OP. Yes, it will handle it.
    
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