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Guys, I was just wondering, has anyone managed to fit a 140mm radiator on the exhaust spot on the case, next to the I/O panel (detailed in picture below).

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From what I have measured, it appears that 141mm would be a max width for the rad (might fit 142mm if you [gently] bashed in the side of the rad or really squeezed it in there), between the I/O panel, and the outer edge of the case, and that there is not much space, maybe 6mm or so, below the bottom of the stock fan, until the rad would hit the top expansion slot.

There is also about only 30mm thickness to play with, unless the rad is thinner than 135mm or so, as the little bolts on the window of the case would hit it, and they stick out probably 4 or 5mm further than the side of the case once the side panel is installed.

Does anyone know a rad that would fit? Preferably not a 30FPI rad as I'd like to keep the stock fan in keeping with my intended black theme, and it is not insane CFM or static pressure.

I know Koolance make a thin 30FPI rad that looks to be quite shallow in the bottom, and is 133mm wide, but I havn't found any more. I did read in a review that Magicool and Thermochill had 140mm radiators that were 142mm wide, but I'm not sure about length... Thermochill don't seem to make a single 140 rad, Magicool's looks like it might fit. Also, there's the Phobya G-Changer, which I can't really get any specs on. All the HWLabs 140 rads are like 153 wide, so they won't work.
EDIT: Found sizes on the Magicool, their single 140 seems to be a tad wider than the dual that I read about, 146mm wide, according to FrozenCPU)

Might have to just go with a 120 rad if I can't find a nice 140 one, it would fix all the problems, just look out of place though...

So yeah... any help appreciated!
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i had an h50 there before i set up my loop and it didn't look bad. if i were guessing i would say a 140 would fit, but it would be snug. you could mount a 140 on the outside back with the fan on the inside, also.
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[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Bgears-BG01589-140mm-BK-Fan-Adapter/dp/B0043GMY1U"]Amazon.com: Bgears 140mm-BK Fan Adapter: Electronics[/ame]

get one of those and do a 120mm rad. theres no way a 140 will fit because the rad will actually be bigger than 140mm.

although you can use 140mm fans with two of those adapters if you want.
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First let me say I know very very little about watercooling but I do have some thoughts that may help you. I would not limit yourself to less than 30FPI for a reason such as not wanting to replace a fan, there are plenty of black fans out there and they are much easier to replace than a radiator. You would want to make adjustments/sacrifices of cheap things (the fan) to accommodate the expensive thing (the Rad) not the other way around. I will let someone with more knowledge and experience than me recommended a good 140mm fan that is black and fits your other requirements but I'm sure that you can find one without making sacrifices on your radiator. Also if either the fan or rad needs to be mounted externally due to clearance issues with the side panel I would recommend keeping the rad internal and the fan external. Good luck.
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if you mount it case:fan:radiator I think you'll have room. that is to say, put the fan between the rear of the case and the radiator.

EK's coolstream is 177x145x55mm. Does your graphics card go in the top slot?
    
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Originally Posted by Phos;13580612 
if you mount it case:fan:radiator I think you'll have room. that is to say, put the fan between the rear of the case and the radiator.

EK's coolstream is 177x145x55mm. Does your graphics card go in the top slot?

thats a good idea. you could even do push/pull if you had a thin rad and didn't mind it sticking out a bit.
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Originally Posted by eloverton2;13580461 
i had an h50 there before i set up my loop and it didn't look bad. if i were guessing i would say a 140 would fit, but it would be snug. you could mount a 140 on the outside back with the fan on the inside, also.
Having the rad on the outside wouldn't work, as I'd have to make holes in the right spot for the tubing, or go out the holes already there, but that would look horrible.
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Amazon.com: Bgears 140mm-BK Fan Adapter: Electronics

get one of those and do a 120mm rad. theres no way a 140 will fit because the rad will actually be bigger than 140mm.

although you can use 140mm fans with two of those adapters if you want.
Exactly what I discussed, and as I said, radiators of the correct or close enough width do exist.
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Originally Posted by juano;13580521 
First let me say I know very very little about watercooling but I do have some thoughts that may help you. I would not limit yourself to less than 30FPI for a reason such as not wanting to replace a fan, there are plenty of black fans out there and they are much easier to replace than a radiator. You would want to make adjustments/sacrifices of cheap things (the fan) to accommodate the expensive thing (the Rad) not the other way around. I will let someone with more knowledge and experience than me recommended a good 140mm fan that is black and fits your other requirements but I'm sure that you can find one without making sacrifices on your radiator. Also if either the fan or rad needs to be mounted externally due to clearance issues with the side panel I would recommend keeping the rad internal and the fan external. Good luck.
Mostly the less than 30FPI is because I want the fan cooling the rad to be quiet, not a noisy beast as are all fans that have the required static pressure/air flow ratings. To the second point, if the rad fits, the fan will, as it is a bit less than 140mm wide, so it shouldn't come to that.
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Originally Posted by Phos;13580612 
if you mount it case:fan:radiator I think you'll have room. that is to say, put the fan between the rear of the case and the radiator.

EK's coolstream is 177x145x55mm. Does your graphics card go in the top slot?
Actually, that's a good idea I did not think of, but I think there would still be issues with the side panel if the rad were too wide, but it may allow one of the aforementioned 142mm wide rads to fit, I'll have to try and somwhow measure the space available when the side panel is on (as the perspex and little bolts stick out, I'm not sure how much space is available).
EDIT: Had a little measure, looks like the perspex+bolt/nut stick out 5mm further than the edge of the case, might have to do a little modding on the fan and cut off the 2mm of extra bolt sticking out past the nut.
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thats a good idea. you could even do push/pull if you had a thin rad and didn't mind it sticking out a bit.
Probably won't go push/pull, it would look a bit bulky, and I think having a rad and a fan there will look quite bulky already.

Also, think I forgot to mention in the OP, I could redrill the fan mounting holes slightly higher to give a little more clearance on the length if needed, which should still allow all the air to exit through the standard vent... maybe 3 to 4mm higher, could give me a bit more options with a rad that is not super shallow on the bottom.
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Well knowing that you can redrill and move up the rad/fan a little bit I think you should be able to make this work somehow. And I think I've exhausted my ability to help here as I really know very little about water cooling. smile.gif
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why not just put a 360 up top?
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Originally Posted by juano;13581389 
Well knowing that you can redrill and move up the rad/fan a little bit I think you should be able to make this work somehow. And I think I've exhausted my ability to help here as I really know very little about water cooling. smile.gif
Thanks for your suggestions!
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why not just put a 360 up top?
I am putting a 360 up top, and a 240 in the bottom, but I'm looking to cool my CPU, FC block on the mobo, and 2 FC blocks on GTX 580s (maybe a 3rd one if I see another 580 going cheap and the temps in the loop aren't too high), so I thought adding in the 140 rad there after the mobo in the loop could help keep things cooler.
    
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