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meh....

We're really just splitting hairs here.
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fyi, the antec hcg620 uses 85 degree celsius capacitors whereas the seasonic s12ii uses 105 degree celsius capacitors. when i called antec to ask them if the capacitors in the hcg620 were different than that used in the seasonic, they wouldn't answer me and tried to give me the run around.

techpowerup took apart the hcg620 and noted the 85 degree capacitors (though both seasonic and the antec use the same brand Nippon Chemi-Con brand capacitors, they apparently don't have the same temperature rating)

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Antec/HCG-620/4.html

hardwaresecrets.com notes that the s12ii uses 105 degree capacitors:

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/artic...y-Review/954/4

newegg lists the seasonic s12II as 105 degree japanese capacitors but lists the antec only as japanese capacitors (but does not list the temp rating):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151096
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371048

according to the techpowerup article:
"In PSUs the best capacitors are the ones labeled at 105 °C since they have increased lifespan compared to the ones labeled at 85 °C. Of course the manufacturer plays a key role and Japanese made capacitors are always preferred."

http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/...ing/psu/160/12

so it seems as though the seasonic is built to last longer. the seasonic has a 5 year warranty compared to the antec's 3 year warranty.

Not knocking the antec, as reviews seem to tout it as a great psu for the money, but there is a difference in price between the antec vs the seasonic, and it may seem justified. however, i am a little peeved that antec customer support tried to give me the run around when asked about the differences.

does the temp rating of the capacitor make a big difference in the durability and performance of a power supply? also, if the capacitors are different, it makes me wonder if other cheaper components are used in the antec. anyone have any thoughts on this?
Edited by retrospect - 9/23/11 at 9:26pm
post #33 of 36
Well again: Phaedrus2129 wrote all of that back in May, so the information you are finding is probably correct.

I normally do not recommend this, but I suppose you could send Phaedrus2129 a private message about this. However, I believe that he would rather have you make a new thread instead of sending him a private message because he gets bombarded with PMs every day.

If anyone would be able to give you the definitive answer on this, then I say that it's him.
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post #34 of 36
how often do cap temps get past 85c anyway?
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post #36 of 36
TechPowerUp found 105*C capacitors on the secondary of the HCG-620:
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All filtering capacitors in the secondary side are provided by Nippon Chemi-Con and are rated at 105°C. We also found a lonely Rubycon (105°C).
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Antec/HCG-620/4.html

Yes the primary is an 85*C cap, which is an odd choice, but really I suspect that SeaSonic themselves are switching it out, what with the tight shortage of Japanese electrolytics at the moment (caused by huge demand from the PSU and high-end audio markets).

NCC's 105*C capacitors are brown while their 85*C caps are usually black. If you open up a PSU and see brown capacitors with a trefoil-perforated top, that's usually 100% diagnostic of NCC 105*C caps.
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