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So they are making a bulldozer CPU with 8 cores? Yeesh didn't 6 cores just come around?

What's June 7th? Release of the cards, or just more information, or....?
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So they are making a bulldozer CPU with 8 cores? Yeesh didn't 6 cores just come around?

What's June 7th? Release of the cards, or just more information, or....?
Release of the motherboards I think. FX4110, FX6110, FX8110 and FX8130P come on the 15th.
    
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Release of the motherboards I think. FX4110, FX6110, FX8110 and FX8130P come on the 15th.
:OOOOOOOOOOO

So are 8 cores confirmed? Sorry if this is a dumb question but that's kind of shocking to me, I mean I feel like 6 cores just came out yesterday.
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i laugh at people that couldnt wait 1 more month when they already have a decent build and built a sandy lol
i laugh at people who told me it's a month away 3 months ago........

amd lost me to sandy, considering im a gamer would have made no difference.
    
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:OOOOOOOOOOO

So are 8 cores confirmed? Sorry if this is a dumb question but that's kind of shocking to me, I mean I feel like 6 cores just came out yesterday.
8 cores were confirmed last year. The pricing is not a rumor, it's the truth. The FX-8130P which is *rumored* to have a 3.8GHZ stock clock and a 4.2GHZ turbo clock will be priced at $320. The FX-8110 which is rumored to have a 3.6GHZ stock clock and a 4GHZ turbo clock will be priced at $290(I think?). I'm guessing the 8130P will have an unlocked multi for better overclocking, and for $30 that's a steal.
    
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who said this is a benchmark for the 4 core?
What he did is take 1/3 of the phenom x6 cores (which is 2) and added them to the current phenom x6 score(6+2=8). I highly doubt it would scale like that, but it is definitely an approximation. The 50% increase is also highly unlikely, but i'd expect at least 20% in most applications.
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I'm willing to bet that 50% figure is not directly relevant to client side. You have to remember that number was comparing a 16 core MCM VS a 12 core MCM, There is a lot of room for improvement that DOESN'T translate to a single chip non-server part. Stuff like inter-chip bandwidth, memory sharing, cache snooping, ETC are all things that don't really matter for an 8 core desktop chip, but could make a huge difference in server environments with 4-8 cpus in one system. I am expecting almost no improvement in per-core clock for clock performance. BD will get most of its advantage over PII with higher clocks, and more cores(SSE5 and AVX will help too). The main point with BD for AMD is to improve die efficiency, performance improvements are just a side effect.

You really think they would go through the time and money to research a new arch that wouldn't be an improvement over their current in per core performance? I think that would be a monumental waste of resources, let's hope you are wrong. I am expecting 15-20% improvement core for core at minimum. I don't see the point in such a huge endeavor if not. They could have just released the Phenom arch on 32nm and gotten the same Mhz and core increases if the bold was true.
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You really think they would go through the time and money to research a new arch that wouldn't be an improvement over their current in per core performance? ...
The whole point of modules is to improve overall performance relative to die space. All it does is let AMD put 8 cores in the space of 6 at the same cost. several other things that will help BD win over PII are things like improved power gating, a smarter turbo, and newer instructions(sse5, AVX). If it's clock for clock performance doesn't improve, it will still be faster then a hypothetical 32nm PII for various reasons.

Again, the focus for AMD with BD is efficiency(for both power and die space) NOT performance. Performance is definitely important to them, but if adding a feature reduces efficiency too much, it isn't going in. It's the same decision they made with 5xxx series graphics, and it is the right one in my opinion.

If AMD had operated with this mindset back in the barcelona days, L3 cache would have probably went bye bye (among other things) and it would have been much more successful IMHO.
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Looks like crud to me. Not worthy of the News section. Rumors section is the place for this.
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I don't mean to rain on the BD parade. I just doubt it'll be better than SB. I could be totally wrong though....
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not impressed

probably fake tho
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I just don't see Intel relinquishing its grip on the high-end market. They are too well funded and organized to allow AMD to catch them off guard. We will see, but I expect alot of AMD fanboy excuses in the months to come....
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I wouldn't wait for that ... 8 cores 7 points hmmmmm at multihtreading

i'd laugh if it can't overclock as high as sandy
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Originally Posted by KOBALT View Post
I love AMD, but by the time Bulldozer comes out.... well....

Bulldozer is gonna be a HUGE disappointment to all. QUOTE ME NOW.

You'll see....

EDIT: and yes.... Ivy will rape anything AMD has and then-some.

Like I said, quote me
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Yet to see a single benchmark for bulldozer that does not look questionable.
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I'd lol if Bulldozer performs worse than Sandy Bridge.
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Everyone seems to have forgotten about Sandy-Bridge EX.
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I saw these benchmarks a week ago. I remember someone saying that they were proven to be fakes.
Wow. I see a lot of SB buyer remorse. LOL. I was a big AMD guy until 775 and then I stuck with that for a while until it was time to upgrade and then it was "eeny, meeny, miny, moe" when it came to Intel sockets.

When this thing does release some trustworthy benches and its faster than SB all we will here is "but it won't be as fast as IB" and if it isn't as fast as SB there will tons of people saying "see I told you".

Either way it's a win for everyone. AMD fans will apparently have a really nice chip. Intel fans will still be in first whatever socket they will be running that month. Mostly the pricing should improve with some great competition.

Yes I currently am a AMD fanboy because with the way Intel is doing things they should just start soldering on they CPUs because by the time your ready for an upgrade it's time for a new socket.

Let the flaming begin.....
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Part of me hopes this is going to be the case. As much as I want a price war, I also want to see the over zealous AMD fanboys eat dust.
Really???? Wow...

I am disappoint.
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