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Korlus, I see the point that you are making, makes a lot of sense. The reason why I'm actually pretty solid about the 2600k is because it will end up being a birthday present from my gf, so I dont really have to worry so much about the price biggrin.gif

But thanks to everyone who has given me some input thus far, I have come up with an updated setup.

Case
Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced Full Tower Case with SuperSpeed USB 3.0 - (RC-932-KKN5-GP) ($150 - microcenter)
Cooler Master HAF ATX Mid Tower Case, RC-922M-KKN1-GP ($100)
Cooler Master HAF 912 Mid Tower ATX Case (RC-912-KKN1) ($50)
Motherboard
ASUS P8Z68-V PRO LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard ($220 - Microcenter)
Processor
Intel Core i7 Processor i7-2600K 3.4GHz 8MB LGA1155 CPU BX80623I72600K ($280 - microcenter)
Ram
Corsair Memory Vengeance 8 Dual Channel Kit DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3 12800) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8 ($100 - Amazon)
Video Card
EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB 1024 MB GDDR5 PCI-Express 2.0 Graphics Card - Lifetime Warranty 01G-P3-1561-AR ($210 - Microcenter/Newegg/Amazon)
Hard Drive
Samsung 1 TB Spinpoint 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.5 inch Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive HD103SJ ($60 - microcenter) x2
Power Supply
Corsair CMPSU-650TX 650-Watt TX Series 80 Plus Certified Power Supply compatible with Intel Core i7 and Core i5 ($80)
DVD Writers
Asus 24x DVD±RW Drive DVD-RAM/±R/±RW 24x 8x 16x (DVD) 48x 32x 48x (CD) Serial ATA Internal OEM DRW-24B1ST (Black) ($25)
Heat Sink
XIGMATEK Intel Core i7 compatible Dark Knight-S1283V REV.W with ACK-I5361 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler I7 i5 775 1155 and AMD compatible ($50 -> $30- Newegg)
NH-D14 ($80 - Amazon)
Operating System
Windows 7 ($30) [Student Discount]

I've also been told many different things in regards to my Case. What are you guys' opinions? Can the HAF 912 or 922 fit everything into it? Or overall should I just bite the bullet and get the HAF 932?

Also, I've taken out the expenses of a sound-card, in order to fund for a CPU cooler. Which one of the two options do you guys recommend if not others? Oh and regarding CPU cooling, the HAF is capable of liquid cooling, which I am planning to take advantage of. Does this make a difference in anything?

Am I missing anything else in this setup? Or is something in need of modifying?

Thanks so much again everyone for helping me plan out making my first rig!
Edited by phamazing - 5/21/11 at 6:12am
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Water cooling isn't really necessary with SB chips, the only real difference is I can run quite a bit lower temps at higher clocks than someone on air can. Its not known if this will factor into degradation or not at this time, but I got my cpu only kit when I was still with AMD so that is why I have it. I can run 5.3GHz under 65C full load, however the problem with sandy is that voltage (or the chip itself) becomes the limiting factor typically before temps do.

If you plan to go full water cooling I would look into grabbing a used GTX 470 like I did.

http://www.overclock.net/video/96972...5-shipped.html $165~ shipped that makes them the best price vs performance option IMO. They do have issues with heat/noise on stock cooling, however under water its a whole different story. My 470s rival stock 580s performance at less than half the cost (including the water cooling), while producing less noise and they run cooler. They're about on par with overclocked 6950s (shader unlocked)/6970s, slightly slower on average.
    
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I still run "Old School" 1366 chips in my rigs.The performance is great and will do everything I need them to do for a long time.Can the 2x00k chips run better?Yes.Will they do more for a longer time?Who knows.I have looked into doing a upgrade on 1 of my rigs to the new platform but just don't see the need yet.All the suggestions so far have been on the right track.I do recommend going with the TX750 though.The Iggy DK is a great cooler for the price.In the way of Cases all the above are good cases for a SB build.Just look at looks,function and size.You could fit your parts list in any of them.I like my full tower cases but not everybody wants one by their desk.Choose the one you like the best.
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Originally Posted by phamazing View Post
Korlus, I see the point that you are making, makes a lot of sense. The reason why I'm actually pretty solid about the 2600k is because it will end up being a birthday present from my gf, so I dont really have to worry so much about the price

But thanks to everyone who has given me some input thus far, I have come up with an updated setup.

Case
Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced Full Tower Case with SuperSpeed USB 3.0 - (RC-932-KKN5-GP) ($150 - microcenter)
Cooler Master HAF ATX Mid Tower Case, RC-922M-KKN1-GP ($100)
Cooler Master HAF 912 Mid Tower ATX Case (RC-912-KKN1) ($50)
Motherboard
ASUS P8Z68-V PRO LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard ($220 - Microcenter)
Processor
Intel Core i7 Processor i7-2600K 3.4GHz 8MB LGA1155 CPU BX80623I72600K ($280 - microcenter)
Ram
Corsair Memory Vengeance 8 Dual Channel Kit DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3 12800) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8 ($100 - Amazon)
Video Card
EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB 1024 MB GDDR5 PCI-Express 2.0 Graphics Card - Lifetime Warranty 01G-P3-1561-AR ($210 - Microcenter/Newegg/Amazon)
Hard Drive
Samsung 1 TB Spinpoint 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.5 inch Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive HD103SJ ($60 - microcenter) x2
Power Supply
Corsair CMPSU-650TX 650-Watt TX Series 80 Plus Certified Power Supply compatible with Intel Core i7 and Core i5 ($80)
DVD Writers
Asus 24x DVD±RW Drive DVD-RAM/±R/±RW 24x 8x 16x (DVD) 48x 32x 48x (CD) Serial ATA Internal OEM DRW-24B1ST (Black) ($25)
Heat Sink
XIGMATEK Intel Core i7 compatible Dark Knight-S1283V REV.W with ACK-I5361 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler I7 i5 775 1155 and AMD compatible ($50 -> $30- Newegg)
NH-D14 ($80 - Amazon)
Operating System
Windows 7 ($30) [Student Discount]

I've also been told many different things in regards to my Case. What are you guys' opinions? Can the HAF 912 or 922 fit everything into it? Or overall should I just bite the bullet and get the HAF 932?

Also, I've taken out the expenses of a sound-card, in order to fund for a CPU cooler. Which one of the two options do you guys recommend if not others? <edit> Oh and regarding CPU cooling, the HAF is capable of liquid cooling, which I am planning to take advantage of. Does this make a difference in anything?

Am I missing anything else in this setup? Or is something in need of modifying?

Thanks so much again everyone for helping me plan out making my first rig!
I'd get the 932. Much bigger and nicer to use, but you'd be fine with a worse one. The motherboard is great. Everything else is just fine. The power supply isn't the best, but it's not bad either.

Overall, a very good build.
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The programmes that can are the heavy-duty programmes that require a lot of CPU power. Things such as video/audio encoding, or zipping/unzipping files (e.g. with 7zip).

In some tests, where multi-threadded applications are created efficiently, you will see a tiny increase in performance from a hyper-threaded processor, but in the vast majority, a larger increase will be seen.
It has nothing to do with optimization, other than being able to run multiple threads.

Like you said, secondary "virtual" cores are activated when the primary core is sitting idle. Primary cores sit idle whenever the CPU has to wait on something - an instruction that takes more than 1 clock cycle to complete, a cache miss, more data from memory, etc. This happens the most frequently with data-intensive calculations, since those require the most cache and memory accesses. Those things you listed, like video encoding and decompressing files, all have this same thing in common.
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thanks everyone for your inputs thus far!

yeah i see why you guys are telling me to get the 2500k instead, but idk i really want to get the 2600k i guess just because im stubborn haha.

but yes thanks! i think i will definitely try to get the asus z68 mobo. so with that said, i won't need a soundcard? or at least one anytime soon because of my mobo?

and for a gpu, im thinking gtx 560ti, what are you guys' opinions on that?
Lol, I'm the same way. I haven't edited/encoded the first video but I had to have the 2600k! I swear I paid $100 more just so I could put that shiny i7 sticker on my case!
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CPU: Intel i5 2500k ($224.99)
Motherboard: Asus 8P67 Pro (Rev 3.0) B3 ($184.99) (Total: $409.98)
RAM: G.skill sniper Low Voltage (2x4GB) 1600 Mhz ddr3 1.25v ($99.99 - $85 after promo) (Total: $495.97)
Hard drive: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200rpm ($59.99 - $49.99 after promo) (Total: $545.96)
Case: Coolermaster HAF 932 ($154.48) (Total: $700.44)
Power supply: This one's a bit awkward, so one of the following:
RECERTIFIED: OCZ StealthXStream 600W ($34.99)
OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W ($74.99 - $59.99 after rebate)
Antec EarthWatts 650W ($64.99)
Antec High Current Gamer Series 520W ($59.99)
Corsair TX 750W ($104.99 - $89.99 after rebate)

I'll get into why later, but let's just assume that what we take costs ~$60 (the modal number). New total: $760.

Heatsink: XIGMATEK Dark Knight ($52.95 - $32.95 after rebate) (Total: $792.95)
Graphics Cards: EVGA GTX 560 Ti 1GB ($229.99 - $209.99 after rebate) (Total: $909.99)


With this you get a few free pen drives, a free edition of Photoshop Elements 9 and free 3dMark 11 Advanced Edition.

You could probably splash out on a better CPU Cooler, but it ought to do the job well. The motherboard I'd probably recommend if you didn't like that one would be one of the newer Z-series (but I don't know enough of them to recommend one).

Also, the power supply you want varies depending on what you want to get. You might even want a 750W if you're looking to sli later on with 560's.

The basic idea is that if you'll never go for a second graphics card, and you know that for sure, buy one of the cheaper models I've listed. They're all good power supplies. If you want one without rebate, or not recertified, I've included options for you. If you think you might want to get a second GTX 560 Ti sometime down the line, then I'd go with the 750W supply you picked out.


Edit: added another power supply + info on them.
Nice work!! +reps
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post #18 of 24
I would have to recommend the i5-2500k. It's the one I wish I had. Great OC-ing, no hyperthreading though.
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If you can get that Corsair TX750 for $89.99 I'd recommend that. Corsair PSUs are very nice right now and one area you really want to go with a proven commodity is with your PSU. 560Ti is also an excellent choice and overall the list looks great. (Obviously the 2600k over the 960 is the best decision.)

If you were able to save enough money with the rest of the parts, perhaps one of the best things you could do would be to get a small SSD like a 64GB Crucial C300... It'll change your entire experience
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i7-2600k no contest. I have built systems with both chips and the Sandy Bridge chips are definitely faster and clock higher.
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