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580SLI pulls like 850w maxwhy on earth would he need 1500w? that's just pointless. With his multi monitor setup, sli 580 will easily handle anything easily.

Unless OP is plugging his microwave, toaster and fridge into his PSU then he doesn't need anywhere near 1500w.
Way to even read my whole post. I addressed this -.-

It's future proofing it for when he upgrades. The output power of the PSU goes down with time and allows for future upgrades.
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Way to even read my whole post. I addressed this -.-

It's future proofing it for when he upgrades. The output power of the PSU goes down with time and allows for future upgrades.
Do you actually buy a 1500w PSU with the thought "in 7 years this will have degraded into a 800w psu, so I can still have some OC headroom with my 8nm 14 core chip!"?

You're ignorantly advising OP to waste money. And yes, I did read your whole post. It doesn't make it any less idiotic. He is NOT going for tri/quad 580, and there is absolutely no need for him to. If he wants to go SLI 580 a 900w & ^ would be great for some headroom, but 1500w? No.

the OP has a massive budget, he doesn't need to buy 2 580s now and say "time for 2 more" a few years down the line. Someone with a 4k budget buys what they need when they need it.
    
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post #23 of 39
honestly, right now, if you want a high end gaming computer, it will cost you about 2000 dollars. These new Sandy Bridge CPUs are fast but they aren't one of those "if I spend 1000 bucks on them, it will be the best". If you want something really high end, you'll have to wait for the LGA 2011 socket coming out supposedly Q4 2011.
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Do you actually buy a 1500w PSU with the thought "in 7 years this will have degraded into a 800w psu, so I can still have some OC headroom with my 8nm 14 core chip!"?

You're ignorantly advising OP to waste money. And yes, I did read your whole post. It doesn't make it any less idiotic. He is NOT going for tri/quad 580, and there is absolutely no need for him to. If he wants to go SLI 580 a 900w & ^ would be great for some headroom, but 1500w? No.

the OP has a massive budget, he doesn't need to buy 2 580s now and say "time for 2 more" a few years down the line. Someone with a 4k budget buys what they need when they need it.
You just put words in my mouth. I never set time frames. That's a personal opinion that I have from experience. Don't tell me I'm doing something ignorantly.

I gave my two cents. Opinions and experience are what a forum is all about, right?
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You just put words in my mouth. I never set time frames. That's a personal opinion that I have from experience. Don't tell me I'm doing something ignorantly.
Ignorance: "the state of being uninformed"

You suggested that the OP buy something that is far greater than what he would need for no reason other than if he were to upgrade to a setup which he will not need.

You are either uninformed or stupid. Pick one.


I never said you buy PSUs with that intention, I asked you if you did. If your answer is the obvious no, you are again either giving the OP misinformation or you yourself are misinformed.

The thing I'm irked by is that you refuse to concede that your suggestion is unnecessary and fallacious. There is no feasible/necessary/practical upgrade for the OP's setup that would require what you suggested. He's not charging his hybrid car with his computer's PSU.. He's powering a [possibly] 580SLI rig.

he will never need more than 1000w. By the time he wants to go 580tri sli, there will be a better single/sli solution for him to buy. All indications point to him having the money readily available if/when he needs to change his hardware.

Next time try supporting a point instead of beating up a strawman and ignoring everything the other person says.
    
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post #26 of 39
Future proofing a PSU is just an excuse for wasting money. End of story.

People seem to forget that as the die shrinks occur, the chips become more energy efficient, thus in theory, for the same power consumption as todays components, they perform better (usually use less power too). So saying to get a 1500w PSU to future proof is just plain stupid. Decent 850w, heck, maybe a 1kW PSU if you want overkill. But not a 1500w, that is just a plain waste of money.

@OP;

I would just recommend you wait the 2 weeks til Bulldozer is released, see what it has to offer. And if Sandy Bridge is better, get a 2500/2600k. If Bulldozer is better, then get that. I am 99% sure Bulldozer releases June 7th, so its not far away at all.
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Future proofing a PSU is just an excuse for wasting money. End of story.

People seem to forget that as the die shrinks occur, the chips become more energy efficient, thus in theory, for the same power consumption as todays components, they perform better (usually use less power too). So saying to get a 1500w PSU to future proof is just plain stupid. Decent 850w, heck, maybe a 1kW PSU if you want overkill. But not a 1500w, that is just a plain waste of money.

@OP;

I would just recommend you wait the 2 weeks til Bulldozer is released, see what it has to offer. And if Sandy Bridge is better, get a 2500/2600k. If Bulldozer is better, then get that. I am 99% sure Bulldozer releases June 7th, so its not far away at all.
Thanks for the suggestion. That seems like a smart idea. As far as power supply, I think I'd probably go with a corsair 1000W just so that I have enough for dual SLI. 1500 is overkill. What kind of motherboard would you suggest that would support the 2011 and have good overclocking?
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There are no 2011 Boards out yet.
In my opinion, because Technology is outdated so fast, it is best to spend 1k-1.5k on a build, and then saving the rest for upgrades when you feel like you need it. Spending 4k to try and "future proof" a build never works.
    
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I know everyone is telling you to wait and I suggest you do to but here is a quick mock up of what you could get right now.
This is the route of watercooling, getting the best possible temps and clocks for your cards and CPU's. I'm pretty sure this is all, if there's anything missing someone correct me please.
Total comes to about $3,600


EDIT: I remember what I forgot, get 5x AP-15 Gentle Typhoon's for about $100 total, $19.95 each. Or 10 for push/pull resulting in lower temps but more noise, and more expensive.
Edited by Wubble - 5/22/11 at 10:23am
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post #30 of 39
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It's future proofing it for when he upgrades. The output power of the PSU goes down with time and allows for future upgrades.
There is no such thing as future proof. It is much better to buy a good quality PSU for what you need unless that upgrade is going to happen in a week or so.

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EDIT: I remember what I forgot, get 5x AP-15 Gentle Typhoon's for about $100 total, $19.95 each. Or 10 for push/pull resulting in lower temps but more noise, and more expensive.
Be better to get the 2150's that are on group buy right now in the other cooling forum. Cheaper and better then 1850's.

http://www.overclock.net/other-cooli...group-buy.html

In your build above I would really forgo with the 2600k unless the OP specifically needs the extra cores for threaded applications. Since the topic however is gaming rig a 2500k would be better. Also I would get one or two more F3 1tb and have them in raid for better performance and more capacity. Also you would want much better ram then that, much better to get 2000mhz + ram with better timings if possible.
Edited by [nK]Sharp - 5/22/11 at 10:31am
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