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There is no such thing as future proof. It is much better to buy a good quality PSU for what you need unless that upgrade is going to happen in a week or so.



Be better to get the 2150's that are on group buy right now in the other cooling forum. Cheaper and better then 1850's.

http://www.overclock.net/other-cooli...group-buy.html
Possibly yes, but if you purchase from there then it takes 10 weeks to arrive for the cheap ones and 14 weeks to arrive for the $12 that's a long time where as you can get the AP-15's in a week with cheapest shipping. Plus money is not too much of a concern for OP with this build.
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Ignorance: "the state of being uninformed"

You suggested that the OP buy something that is far greater than what he would need for no reason other than if he were to upgrade to a setup which he will not need.

You are either uninformed or stupid. Pick one.


I never said you buy PSUs with that intention, I asked you if you did. If your answer is the obvious no, you are again either giving the OP misinformation or you yourself are misinformed.

The thing I'm irked by is that you refuse to concede that your suggestion is unnecessary and fallacious. There is no feasible/necessary/practical upgrade for the OP's setup that would require what you suggested. He's not charging his hybrid car with his computer's PSU.. He's powering a [possibly] 580SLI rig.

he will never need more than 1000w. By the time he wants to go 580tri sli, there will be a better single/sli solution for him to buy. All indications point to him having the money readily available if/when he needs to change his hardware.

Next time try supporting a point instead of beating up a strawman and ignoring everything the other person says.
I just gave him my opinion, did you have to attack me for it? No.

Again, a forum is for giving opinions, not for cutting people down, calling them ignorant, or making a fool of yourself over something silly.

Depending on the OP's usage of this computer, the PSU after a couple of years would be able to provide a max of about 1200W. Larger PSU's (although overkill) are a much better investment IF looking to upgrade to something new down the line. It'd be sad if he had a 1000W PSU that could do fine now, but down the road couldn't support the new thing (can't always count on technology or what the OP will personally prefer) and then he has to buy another one. Wasted money. If he has the money now why not go for something that WILL last through a few hardware revisions with room.

It's an opinion regardless. You came on here calling me childish names. Grow up and get over yourself.
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I just gave him my opinion, did you have to attack me for it? No.

Again, a forum is for giving opinions, not for cutting people down, calling them ignorant, or making a fool of yourself over something silly.

Depending on the OP's usage of this computer, the PSU after a couple of years would be able to provide a max of about 1200W. Larger PSU's (although overkill) are a much better investment IF looking to upgrade to something new down the line. It'd be sad if he had a 1000W PSU that could do fine now, but down the road couldn't support the new thing (can't always count on technology or what the OP will personally prefer) and then he has to buy another one. Wasted money. If he has the money now why not go for something that WILL last through a few hardware revisions with room.

It's an opinion regardless. You came on here calling me childish names. Grow up and get over yourself.
Thanks for your opinion. I understand your viewpoint that the psu would be the safest future proof investment. That being said, I highly doubt I'll be using THAT much power.
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Thanks for your opinion. I understand your viewpoint that the psu would be the safest future proof investment. That being said, I highly doubt I'll be using THAT much power.
True haha. That's just me. I'd say go with something that is ~1250W so that you'll have 1000W to work with come future upgrades in case intel comes out with some motherboard that can have 6 processors with 8 cores each. You never know what they'll come up with these days.
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#1 rule in PC building No such thing as "future proof" if you build the best PC with the best parts out and spend 10K in parts and goodies its just a matter of weeks or a couple months something else better comes along. there is no game out that uses more then 4 core CPU period. why wait until a 8 core CPU comes out when its no use to you if your gaming?

"Depending on the OP's usage of this computer" the OP stated what he would be doing with the PC its in the title of the thread.

My suggestion is buy a 2500K a Gigabyte p67-UD7/Asus MAXIMUS IV MB a Nvidia GTX 590 a bad ass 30"monitor a 850watt PSU /8gb Fast Ram/ 120gbSSD and bang on the KB fragging & pwning n00bs until your fingers bleed.
Edited by AMD_Freak - 5/22/11 at 8:27pm
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#1 rule in PC building No such thing as "future proof" if you build the best PC with the best parts out and spend 10K in parts and goodies its just a matter of weeks or a couple months something else better comes along. there is no game out that uses more then 4 core CPU period. why wait until a 8 core CPU comes out when its no use to you if your gaming?

"Depending on the OP's usage of this computer" the OP stated what he would be doing with the PC its in the title of the thread.

My suggestion is buy a 2500K a Gigabyte p67-UD7/Asus MAXIMUS IV MB a Nvidia GTX 590 a bad ass 30"monitor a 850watt PSU /8gb Fast Ram/ 120gbSSD and bang on the KB fragging & pwning n00bs until your fingers bleed.
Awesome, thanks. I'm planning on doing 1x 30" and 2x 20" (1600x1200). In addition to gaming, I do use photoshop a bit (mostly lightroom) to process my photos. Could definitely use 6 cores (but obviously I don't think the price trade off is worth it currently). Does anyone know the best / most efficient way to hook up a dual sli 580 with 3 monitors (if I am to run most of the gaming on the center 30")? Never hooked up 3 monitors before.

Also, as far as memory goes, what are the advantages / disadvantages of getting 2gb chips vs 4 gb? How incremental is the hz of the memory? I'm thinking of getting 12 gb @ 1800 (a bit overkill, I know).

Does anyone have any experience with the higher end network cards? I know a lot of people think they're crap / not worth the money, but I think it's cool that you can monitor bandwidth and potentially lower ping for games. I'm referring to the Killer 2100 ($90).

Also, what sound card would be best? I don't care THAT much about sound, but would probably be looking to spend around $100-200 for a good sound card.
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#1 rule in PC building No such thing as "future proof" if you build the best PC with the best parts out and spend 10K in parts and goodies its just a matter of weeks or a couple months something else better comes along. there is no game out that uses more then 4 core CPU period. why wait until a 8 core CPU comes out when its no use to you if your gaming?

"Depending on the OP's usage of this computer" the OP stated what he would be doing with the PC its in the title of the thread.

My suggestion is buy a 2500K a Gigabyte p67-UD7/Asus MAXIMUS IV MB a Nvidia GTX 590 a bad ass 30"monitor a 850watt PSU /8gb Fast Ram/ 120gbSSD and bang on the KB fragging & pwning n00bs until your fingers bleed.
For one thing by future proof I in no way meant the PSU wouldn't become obsolete. I just meant it would live through a few builds. Again, experience.

Also, when dealing with PSU's, means to me the amount of time that the PC will be on during the day as it affects the output power over time.
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Awesome, thanks. I'm planning on doing 1x 30" and 2x 20" (1600x1200). In addition to gaming, I do use photoshop a bit (mostly lightroom) to process my photos. Could definitely use 6 cores (but obviously I don't think the price trade off is worth it currently). Does anyone know the best / most efficient way to hook up a dual sli 580 with 3 monitors (if I am to run most of the gaming on the center 30")? Never hooked up 3 monitors before.

Also, as far as memory goes, what are the advantages / disadvantages of getting 2gb chips vs 4 gb? How incremental is the hz of the memory? I'm thinking of getting 12 gb @ 1800 (a bit overkill, I know).

Does anyone have any experience with the higher end network cards? I know a lot of people think they're crap / not worth the money, but I think it's cool that you can monitor bandwidth and potentially lower ping for games. I'm referring to the Killer 2100 ($90).

Also, what sound card would be best? I don't care THAT much about sound, but would probably be looking to spend around $100-200 for a good sound card.
Any insight on these questions would be awesome.
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