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Is there any difference in these two methods? Or do they do the same thing?
Usually taking off the CMOs is more reliable than using the jumper since it doesn't work sometimes for various reasons.C1E doesn't need to be turned off for such low OC on the chip , i THINK it controls the voltage limit when it going through the power phases since enabling that would give you a slightly lower vCore on Auto.

Im bending more towards a mobo problem in this case (though you flashed to a newer version , as people said they can have various lucks on different versions) since everything looks normal and a tad high on voltage control wouldn't have cased something you have described.

I'd say just to make sure , throw in an old Intel CPU and see if it it works.
    
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Usually taking off the CMOs is more reliable than using the jumper since it doesn't work sometimes for various reasons.C1E doesn't need to be turned off for such low OC on the chip , i THINK it controls the voltage limit when it going through the power phases since enabling that would give you a slightly lower vCore on Auto.

Im bending more towards a mobo problem in this case (though you flashed to a newer version , as people said they can have various lucks on different versions) since everything looks normal and a tad high on voltage control wouldn't have cased something you have described.

I'd say just to make sure , throw in an old Intel CPU and see if it it works.
Unfortunately I don't have any other 1155 chips lying around. Or I would.

I have flashed to the current version for my Mobo. Is there a way that anyone knows of to revert back to stock BIOS versions? Maybe I could see if they have them on the disk! OHH!! Good idea Wulf!

EDIT: Looks like the ones included on the disk were the 1502 version. Therefore.. it wasn't a downgrade. However I tried downgrading once.. to a 13xx version.. didn't work, unfortunately..
Edited by WuLF - 5/21/11 at 11:19pm
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The stock bios version should be written on the chip itself.
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Unfortunately I don't have any other 1155 chips lying around. Or I would.
I'd be even more worried if you did , actually.

Oh and can anyone tell me what exactly does Intel SpeedStep do?
    
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There's a method to downgrade the BIOS; it was written over on Hardforum, but the method required you to be in windows to do it. There was an alternative way, using a DOS version of AFUDOS or something, that was also posted in the thread, which would allow you to manually flash 1305 or whatever the first version is.

And, you need to stop being so stubborn, and see if the CPU can boot at 4 ghz. If it can't, then you killed it; RMA since it was the board's fault. Even if you don't LIKE 4 ghz, you still need to see if the chip is dead or not.

And, doing a clear cmos is really easy, and it WORKS EVERY TIME, if people actually follow instructions. Problem is, everyone seems to want to do shortcuts these days:

I posted this for someone who had trouble clearing cmos, and they used my steps and said it worked wonderfully:

1) Power off the computer.
2) Turn off the PSU or unplug it.
3) Press the case power button several times; this will discharge the +5 VSB standby voltage
4) Wait 60 seconds.
5) If you're OCD, press the case button again. Then open the case, and press the clear cmos button for 30 seconds. If you do not have a clear cmos/rtc button, but only have a jumper, use a jumper block, that either came with the board, or one from a HDD, and use it to short the clear position jumper pins (on some boards this is pins 2-3; on others, they may have only two pins). If you don't have a jumper block, use a flat head screwdriver or some other piece of metal that can bridge the two pins. Do that for 30 seconds.
6) Remove the short, plug the PSU back in, and boot. This will properly wipe everything, 99% of the time, it will be successful, unless the BIOS is completely hosed.

About the cpu voltage bug:
This isn't the first time this has happened. This happened to an admin (grumoin1?)'s CPU when he tried changing profiles with offset voltages; the offset changed from something like 0.150 to 0.915, which wasn't even possible to enter manually. These asus boards seem to have some REALLY Weird bugs when switching profiles or trying to use certain defaults...I've only seen a gigabyte board do this after a BIOS flash on a UD4 board with bios version F4, where the CPU voltage was forced to 1.78v, ONLY when VTT was forced to 1.2. I was not able to replicate this on a UD5.
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There's a method to downgrade the BIOS; it was written over on Hardforum, but the method required you to be in windows to do it. There was an alternative way, using a DOS version of AFUDOS or something, that was also posted in the thread, which would allow you to manually flash 1305 or whatever the first version is.
I don't feel like using DOS to try to fix this problem. Just gonna go to MC tomorrow, get a new chip, see if it will boot on stock settings. If it won't, then it is my Mobo, and will have Amazon send me a new one.

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And, you need to stop being so stubborn, and see if the CPU can boot at 4 ghz. If it can't, then you killed it; RMA since it was the board's fault. Even if you don't LIKE 4 ghz, you still need to see if the chip is dead or not.
I've tried man.. I reset the board to give the CPU it's stock values.. It won't boot. It will get so far as to TRY to boot into windows, but stalls very quickly when you are able to see the flying orbs come in. Then just restarts my computer into BIOS.

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And, doing a clear cmos is really easy, and it WORKS EVERY TIME, if people actually follow instructions. Problem is, everyone seems to want to do shortcuts these days:

I posted this for someone who had trouble clearing cmos, and they used my steps and said it worked wonderfully:

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6) Remove the short, plug the PSU back in, and boot. This will properly wipe everything, 99% of the time, it will be successful, unless the BIOS is completely hosed.
Isn't this essentially the same thing as removing the CMOS battery? Which I have already done.

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About the cpu voltage bug:
This isn't the first time this has happened. This happened to an admin (grumoin1?)'s CPU when he tried changing profiles with offset voltages; the offset changed from something like 0.150 to 0.915, which wasn't even possible to enter manually. These asus boards seem to have some REALLY Weird bugs when switching profiles or trying to use certain defaults...I've only seen a gigabyte board do this after a BIOS flash on a UD4 board with bios version F4, where the CPU voltage was forced to 1.78v, ONLY when VTT was forced to 1.2. I was not able to replicate this on a UD5.
Also read about this. However I was not trying to load different profiles at all. I only just got this rig, I haven't had time to make profiles for overclocks.
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mate before you start worrying more check out your SSD settings in your Bios. Make sure youve chosen the right setup (AHCI etc). I accidentally loaded my BIOS defaults and my BIOS reverted back to the original storage settings (IDE instead of AHCI). As a result I could not load windows and was getting BSOD 0x07 or something just after the windows logo. Note that Ive got the same OS SSD as you.

Just an idea
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mate before you start worrying more check out your SSD settings in your Bios. Make sure youve chosen the right setup (AHCI etc). I accidentally loaded my BIOS defaults and my BIOS reverted back to the original storage settings (IDE instead of AHCI). As a result I could not load windows and was getting BSOD 0x07 or something just after the windows logo. Note that Ive got the same OS SSD as you.

Just an idea
Thank you traxevc, I'll try this tomorrow mate.
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Wow sounds like he nailed it. My BIOS always sets it to IDE mode after any cmos flash or clear...
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mate before you start worrying more check out your SSD settings in your Bios. Make sure youve chosen the right setup (AHCI etc). I accidentally loaded my BIOS defaults and my BIOS reverted back to the original storage settings (IDE instead of AHCI). As a result I could not load windows and was getting BSOD 0x07 or something just after the windows logo. Note that Ive got the same OS SSD as you.

Just an idea
Very good advice. Mine does the same thing.
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