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I think another contributing factor to poor college graduates, is that more than ever these days, there is so much to do that students focus on passing the test, rather than learning the material.

Someone here said if something isn't worth a lot of marks, skip it - but I think that is the wrong way to look at it. You don't go to university/any level of school to learn how to pass tests, you go there to gain knowledge that will help you in your career.

my 2 cents.
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Edited by Riou - 5/22/11 at 11:45pm
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figured I could sum up what I said more easily tongue.gif. Was thinking about getting into a heavy math related field (astronomy) but realized I'd be spending much longer in school and more money than I'd want to. So I switched.
Edited by Opeth07 - 5/23/11 at 12:22am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mushroomboy;13604087 
First I'll cover the SAT vs GRE, apparently they are equal.
You haven't done that yet, and yes, they are quite similar (the SAT doesn't use word analogies anymore though)
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Originally Posted by mushroomboy;13604087 
A lot of text
Thank you for your proof by verbosity, but I know that you are just rehashing tabula rasa, the sensorimotor stage of development, schemas, accomodation, concepts, prototypes, plasticity, etc. You're not the only one that has studied psychology wink.gif
Nothing to do with the argument at hand.

You have a distorted view of the g factor, are highly skewed toward the influence of the environment in development, and have some incorrect information.

We can all memorize, but some people can memorize better than others. In a lifetime a person will only use a tiny fraction of the brain's memory capacity. Similarly, some people are simply better at motor control than others. I can practice 8 hours a day on the piano but I'll never be a Horowitz.

The main problem is your narrow definition of intelligence. In real life, intelligence is not solely the ability to solve problems logically; everything else is easy.
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Originally Posted by DuckieHo;13601859 
What non-STEM careers (other than law) gets you $80K with relative ease by the time you are 30?

I don't mean to get into what I think may be an argument here, but most of the Accountants I know did this within 3 years of graduating. thumb.gif I don't think we are STEM guys as our maths are strictly 3rd grade level.
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Originally Posted by dave12;13605281 
I don't mean to get into what I think may be an argument here, but most of the Accountants I know did this within 3 years of graduating. thumb.gif I don't think we are STEM guys as our maths are strictly 3rd grade level.

I guarantee the average accountant graduate makes nowhere near $80k in 3 years.
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I hope people get more dedication for science,otherwise we will be stagnated :S
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aldfig0;13604603 
You haven't done that yet, and yes, they are quite similar (the SAT doesn't use word analogies anymore though)

Thank you for your proof by verbosity, but I know that you are just rehashing tabula rasa, the sensorimotor stage of development, schemas, accomodation, concepts, prototypes, plasticity, etc. You're not the only one that has studied psychology wink.gif
Nothing to do with the argument at hand.

You have a distorted view of the g factor, are highly skewed toward the influence of the environment in development, and have some incorrect information.

We can all memorize, but some people can memorize better than others. In a lifetime a person will only use a tiny fraction of the brain's memory capacity. Similarly, some people are simply better at motor control than others. I can practice 8 hours a day on the piano but I'll never be a Horowitz.

The main problem is your narrow definition of intelligence. In real life, intelligence is not solely the ability to solve problems logically; everything else is easy.

The g factor isn't proof of anything, they still argue about it being an average mean of intelligence. Neither of us can say what's right or wrong, that's why sternburg's isn't the universally accepted theory. So I can't have a distorted view, there is no widely accepted view. More so they have tried to pinpoint it to a genetic factor, which they can't, more evidence to the idea that the intelligence is learned.

We also can't prove that some people memorize differently without a full study of their lives. If they learned a special mnemonic at an early age that could help them thorough life, whether they learned them on their own or not.

Physical ability would have to start at a very young age, or at least that's my belief. The earlier the stages of development the more ingrained the self control will be. You can't be Horowitz, who's to say you couldn't have been.

Again we don't have nearly enough information to prove any of this, no theory currently does. At least I'm pushing against the theory and talking about possible problems they have and not accepting them yet.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dave12;13605281 
I don't mean to get into what I think may be an argument here, but most of the Accountants I know did this within 3 years of graduating. thumb.gif I don't think we are STEM guys as our maths are strictly 3rd grade level.


The average salary of 2-4yr accountant:
Accountant II = $53K: http://www1.salary.com/Accountant-II-Salary.html
Tax Accountant II = $59K http://www1.salary.com/Tax-Accountant-II-salary.html
Cost Accountant II = $58K http://www1.salary.com/Cost-Accountant-II-salary.html


Accoutant and related average salaries: http://www.simplyhired.com/a/salary/search/q-accounting



You must be in an area with a high demand for accountants then. Accounting is basically a mix of law and math though.
Edited by DuckieHo - 5/23/11 at 9:33am
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