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Yeah, but does music require maxed out course load just to graduate?

5-6 courses plus 1-2 labs a semester.

Most people get music. Most people do not just get quantum physics or circuit design.
And some of us just get it and have ADD

Give me Math and Calculus based Physics any day... or give me English and suicide

Being that I spent some time going to school in Europe, I tell you the coolest thing about many European Colleges (primarily England as my experience), you go to study a specific Major, and you actually take 90~95% of your classes in a related field.

Although I excelled at everything, I often thought it was a waste of time to take classes like South African History, in addition to 5 other History classes because it was mandatory. Well rounding and conforming our education system holds back our expertise in specific fields, but makes us very good coffee shop companions for discussing philosophy and the Napoleonic wars I guess.

Also, I think more and more universities are playing catch-up when getting students, trying to get them up to speed, while fitting the core elements of each class into the confines of the Semester block.
Edited by RagingCain - 5/23/11 at 5:36pm
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Something like this?

http://www.payscale.com/best-colleges/degrees.asp

The first non-STEM related degree is either #14 Building Construction or #22 Government. I am not exactly sure what Building Construction is.... if it is designing buildings, then it is STEM due to civil engineer relationship.



BTW, Art is #108.
Yay I'm #9
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And some of us just get it and have ADD

Give me Math and Calculus based Physics any day... or give me English and suicide

Being that I spent some time going to school in Europe, I tell you the coolest thing about many European Colleges (primarily England as my experience), you go to study a specific Major, and you actually take 90~95% of your classes in a related field.

Although I excelled at everything, I often thought it was a waste of time to take classes like South African History, in addition to 5 other History classes because it was mandatory. Well rounding and conforming our education system holds back our expertise in specific fields, but makes us very good coffee shop companions for discussing philosophy and the Napoleonic wars I guess.

Also, I think more and more universities are playing catch-up when getting students, trying to get them up to speed, while fitting the core elements of each class into the confines of the Semester block.
I agree that "well rounding" is often overemphasized. For some majors, I can see being well rounded as a good thing (Business, arts, ect) but for STEM fields, for the most part, you need to be well rounded inside your field. My mandatory liberal studies on music and evil in eastern culture do nothing to contribute to my degree in computer science. I would have been better off with programming classes.
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Is there a petroleum engineer major :O? So much damn money
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The first non-STEM related degree is either #14 Building Construction or #22 Government. I am not exactly sure what Building Construction is.... if it is designing buildings, then it is STEM due to civil engineer relationship.
Building Construction...I can relate as it's what I do. I'm a field engineer for one of the top 14 heavy civil contractors. Civil engineering geared towards the field aspect instead of design, ABET accredited and I've got my EIT
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Is there a petroleum engineer major :O? So much damn money
My dad's a petroleum engineer...depending on the company they're starting some new hires at $100 K...if you work for the government it's about half that (but at least there's the job security and nice hours ).
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I am going to have to take Trigonometry for the third time next semester. The professor my first time didn't even care about us and continuously yelled at us for being "lazy". She barely even taught the class as it was. I guarantee you that class had at least an 80% drop/failure rate. The second professor I had actually cared about the class but wasn't too great at teaching. Once the Trig Identities hit the entire class took a dive.

These higher level courses are very tough courses and should not be taken lightly. We need confident teachers teaching these courses or we will continue to see our science graduate base decrease.
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Crappy tenured professors are to blame.

My school is full of them.

TL;DR (not all of it).

Stop complaining about bad prof's your whole class is in it together, unless the whole class fails you have no excuse. Live with it.
    
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This is national average.
What school if I may ask? Are there a lot of defense firms that hire from your school?
CU Boulder, we have everyone here, Google, Lockheed Martin, Bell Aerospace, Oracle, IBM, Northrop Grumman, Harris, HP and even a Microsoft office now.

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May I know how old you guys were when you started college as a freshman?
lol, 23.
Edited by joemaniaci - 5/23/11 at 9:31pm
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stop simplifying music

it all comes down to how your brain works/ how you were raised
most of us understand basic musical or literary concepts and thus disregard future pursuit as trivial. This is why I have no respect for cocky engineers. Thank god I'll be a lawyer, too bad the only thing worse is an engineer.

Seriously, how many lives have been lost due to cocky engineers? I can count quite a few. Death to engineers who are innovative or original. Thats not ur job, and its not what ur good at. Do the math, thats all you will ever be good for. I can't stand engineers if u can't tell. Not one type of person I detest more. The sense of entitlement just kills it for me.
    
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stop simplifying music

it all comes down to how your brain works/ how you were raised
most of us understand basic musical or literary concepts and thus disregard future pursuit as trivial. This is why I have no respect for cocky engineers. Thank god I'll be a lawyer, too bad the only thing worse is an engineer.

Seriously, how many lives have been lost due to cocky engineers? I can count quite a few. Death to engineers who are innovative or original. Thats not ur job, and its not what ur good at. Do the math, thats all you will ever be good for. I can't stand engineers if u can't tell. Not one type of person I detest more. The sense of entitlement just kills it for me.
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