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Originally Posted by AzO;13652598 
The US has no money, gives students no incentive, pure and simple.

the US has plenty of money if you are an engineer planning on working with lockheed-martin, raytheon, or general dynamics
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Originally Posted by Foolsmasher;13651797 
Good luck. My friend graduated from Illinois (top 5 engr school) 2 years ago with about a 3.6 gpa. Couldn't get hired by Boeing, etc. Ended up joining the air force after all that.

It's just sad.

That is the most depressing comment I've seen throughout this entire thread. I'm attending Illinois next year as a computer engineering major... hopefully I can survive.
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Originally Posted by AzO;13652598 
The US has no money, gives students no incentive, pure and simple.

There is plenty of incentive to being a GOOD engineer. Giving students money at the time of being a student is pointless, as education is a privilege, not a right. Having strong, secure, well-compensating jobs for engineers (there are plenty of them) is the only incentive they need (beyond a basic interest in the subject). People really need to learn and appreciate the strength in thinking for the future rather than thinking for the here-and-now.

One could make the argument that one lacks the money it takes to go to school in something like engineering. Lack of immediate money hasn't stopped people from pursuing education, it just takes sacrifice with the pay-off being a future career that's stable and established.

Incentive money is NOT the reason why there aren't hundreds of thousands of engineers entering the workforce every year, or why some students can't hack it in engineering programs.
    
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Originally Posted by guyladouche;13658980 
There is plenty of incentive to being a GOOD engineer. Giving students money at the time of being a student is pointless, as education is a privilege, not a right. Having strong, secure, well-compensating jobs for engineers (there are plenty of them) is the only incentive they need (beyond a basic interest in the subject). People really need to learn and appreciate the strength in thinking for the future rather than thinking for the here-and-now.

One could make the argument that one lacks the money it takes to go to school in something like engineering. Lack of immediate money hasn't stopped people from pursuing education, it just takes sacrifice with the pay-off being a future career that's stable and established.

Incentive money is NOT the reason why there aren't hundreds of thousands of engineers entering the workforce every year, or why some students can't hack it in engineering programs.


Duly noted

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Holy crap, this is news! Fine reporting going on all over the nation.

NEWSFLASH "Twenty percent of all students who enroll in difficult degree programs cant cut it, or decide drinking/partying is more fun, drop out or change majors!"

Oh... my.... God.... .....!!!!!!!!!!!

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Most professors at the university level in science courses are really bad teachers. If you do decide on an engineering/science field, make sure you are good at independent learning. Make sure your fundamental math skills are really good (algebra, geometry, and trig). Science fields tend to be a lot more competitive than most art fields (especially grading-wise).

One of the biggest problems is students are not taught the fundamentals well enough from elementary school through high school. Then when university level math/science courses begin, it is too overwhelming.

Math and sciences are topics where you just have to drill over and over to master it. One of the problems I had was I always got 95 percent in math and science courses during high school. Nothing higher. Then when college began, that 5 percent I missed always came back to haunt me.

Well I still survived CE but I miss my friends. frown.gif
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I am part of this statistic. I started college with the intent of being a mechanical engineer, and three years later, found myself as an Army air traffic controller. I'll be back for an engineering degree, though. devil-smiley-019.gif
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There is plenty of incentive to being a GOOD engineer. Giving students money at the time of being a student is pointless, as education is a privilege, not a right. Having strong, secure, well-compensating jobs for engineers (there are plenty of them) is the only incentive they need (beyond a basic interest in the subject). People really need to learn and appreciate the strength in thinking for the future rather than thinking for the here-and-now.

One could make the argument that one lacks the money it takes to go to school in something like engineering. Lack of immediate money hasn't stopped people from pursuing education, it just takes sacrifice with the pay-off being a future career that's stable and established.

Incentive money is NOT the reason why there aren't hundreds of thousands of engineers entering the workforce every year, or why some students can't hack it in engineering programs.
school doesn't teach people to become good engineers. you'll learn much more at an internship or co-op than you will through a year or two of schooling.

schools purposely make engineering so hard so the profession isn't devalued and saturated with so many engineers.
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Originally Posted by guyladouche;13658980 
education is a privilege, not a right.

Education should be open to everyone, you get out what you put in. The choice should always be there!

Not everyone is cut out for such heavy degrees and this is also showing here in Norway with a current lack of civil engineers.
Edited by jackbrennan2008 - 5/27/11 at 4:16pm
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Originally Posted by jackbrennan2008;13660044 
Education should be open to everyone, you get out what you put in. The choice should always be there!

Not everyone is cut out for such heavy degrees and this is also showing here in Norway with a current lack of civil engineers.

Higher education is open to everyone, now being able to afford it is another thing. But if degrees were handed out like candy on halloween, what is the point of even attending college?

It weeds out the people who do and those that just do talking, it's get your ***** together or keep walking.
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