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That is the most depressing comment I've seen throughout this entire thread. I'm attending Illinois next year as a computer engineering major... hopefully I can survive.

His situation sound very atypical. I did much worse at a lesser school and ended up in a much better situation. I don't think a single person I graduated with had trouble getting a job.
    
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That is the most depressing comment I've seen throughout this entire thread. I'm attending Illinois next year as a computer engineering major... hopefully I can survive.
I find it hard to believe that someone who graduated UIUC Engineering did not have a job or grad school lined up for them straight out of college.
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Originally Posted by Cykososhull View Post
Higher education is open to everyone, now being able to afford it is another thing. But if degrees were handed out like candy on halloween, what is the point of even attending college?

It weeds out the people who do and those that just do talking, it's get your ***** together or keep walking.
Dont you have to fullfill some sort of entry requirement? Or do you just pay to get into university in the US?

Here you are accepted based on how well you do at high school.

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Dont you have to fullfill some sort of entry requirement? Or do you just pay to get into university in the US?

Here you are accepted based on how well you do at high school.

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It completely depends on the school. Lower end schools will just take anybody. Prestigious schools are very very hard to get into and only take the best. I was a good student in high school and got into my college with no difficulties. A few years later my little brother applied to the same school and was rejected.
    
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Good luck. My friend graduated from Illinois (top 5 engr school) 2 years ago with about a 3.6 gpa. Couldn't get hired by Boeing, etc. Ended up joining the air force after all that.

It's just sad.
Illinois isn't a top 5 aero engineering school? I don't know where you are getting your rankings from, MIT, California Institute of of tech, Georgia Tech, Stanford and U of Michigan are the top 5, though with my personal bias I would put University of Colorado up there as well simply due to the amount of money and projects NASA gives them, additionally Purdue is better than Illinois.
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It completely depends on the school. Lower end schools will just take anybody. Prestigious schools are very very hard to get into and only take the best. I was a good student in high school and got into my college with no difficulties. A few years later my little brother applied to the same school and was rejected.
LOL

If you have money (or rather, if your family has money) you can get into ANY school you wish.

If you don't have money, you certainly need good grades, and ideally something that sets you apart (excellent SAT/ACT scores, student project, family alumni, etc).
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Illinois isn't a top 5 aero engineering school? I don't know where you are getting your rankings from, MIT, California Institute of of tech, Georgia Tech, Stanford and U of Michigan are the top 5, though with my personal bias I would put University of Colorado up there as well simply due to the amount of money and projects NASA gives them, additionally Purdue is better than Illinois.
I think he means top 5 overall engineering programs
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LOL

If you have money (or rather, if your family has money) you can get into ANY school you wish.

If you don't have money, you certainly need good grades, and ideally something that sets you apart (excellent SAT/ACT scores, student project, family alumni, etc).
This, Its all about the $$$$$$ in the states. Canada is mostly grades but some connections
    
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One could make the argument that one lacks the money it takes to go to school in something like engineering. Lack of immediate money hasn't stopped people from pursuing education, it just takes sacrifice with the pay-off being a future career that's stable and established.
So true. School actually got easier, with my freshman year being the hardest. My senior year was easy.

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school doesn't teach people to become good engineers. you'll learn much more at an internship or co-op than you will through a year or two of schooling.

schools purposely make engineering so hard so the profession isn't devalued and saturated with so many engineers.
Both good points. I hardly learned any applicable stuff in my Comp Sci degree. I do have 3 summer internships with the Department of Energy and the Air Force under my belt, and the bulk of my education came from them.

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Originally Posted by jackbrennan2008 View Post
Education should be open to everyone, you get out what you put in. The choice should always be there!

Not everyone is cut out for such heavy degrees and this is also showing here in Norway with a current lack of civil engineers.
At least here where I live, there are far too many business majors graduating. Many of them end up at department stores making the same income they could have made out of highschool. A masters degree today has the same (or less) value then a bachelors degree did a few decades ago in many professions. Education is both being watered down, while more people obtain it, that it horribly devalues a degree. In 30 years will a PhD be what a Masters degree is today, with a new level above PhD required?

If education is more accessible, IMHO, it should become harder to compensate.
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Maybe I have a minority opinion here but...shouldn't these majors be really hard? Engineers do kind of delicate stuff... like build space shuttles, skyscrapers. medicine.... I don't want just any sort of average joe to be able to stroll though a bachelors in chemical engineering. Smart people with drive will make it, everyone else won't.

And before you ask, I am a computer science and an electrical engineering major myself.
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