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First day of engineering classes....

"Look to the left, Look to the right, one of you will not be graduating."



Cause it's really really hard. If you don't get it, you're in trouble. Engineering course load is usually maxed out on credits and if you fail a requirement class... you are held back for a year since there is only one offering a year. However, this class is required before you can move on.

I double majored in Computer Engineer and Economics. Economics is a relatively hard major.... it was nothing compared to CE.
Duckie, you're scaring me T__T
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Why's everyone complaining? This is the best news I've read all day. It means colleges have finally stopped dumbing down their courses and are beginning to weed out people who never should have been there in the first place. Only about 10 years too late....
This.
I hate how everyone tries selling college to people. Not everyone is meant to be there. I don't want the good jobs flooded.
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Who will drive the future technology?
Drunks.

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Glad this is from a somewhat respected American News Agency
CNN is barely respectable.

Regardless it's hard to ignore the facts of the matter, no matter who reports it, when they are this obvious.

Then again I'm certain Harold Camping said the same thing...

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Crappy tenured professors are to blame.
This is certainly a huge flaw in the system.

They reward time spent in one's position over merit.
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Because in the sciences, you generally need get to your third year of classes before you start doing anything related to your field, and then realize it isn't what they want to do for the rest of their lives.

Because in sciences, you have 3 3 hour labs on top of your 15 hours of class, and each lab has about the same amount of homework and preparation required as your normal classwork. So 8 classes a semester vs. 5.

Because in sciences, you can't argue an answer on a test or in a worksheet like you can in English. The teachers are too stuck-up and brilliant to see any other answer than a perfectly regurgitated answer from his notes, you lose marks for format of your answer even if all the right answers are there.

Because in sciences, you are competing with all the medical school, dentistry school, veterinary and graduate hopefuls who all want to do better than you. If you go in to the sciences, you generally start with one of those things in mind, and when you aren't as smart as everyone else (someone is always smarter) being the smartest kid in your high school no longer matters and its soul-crushing.

Sciences have giant classes usually, not 30 person open discussion classes. Have fun having your question getting answered in a class of 200 questions.

Sciences are harder, but not for the academic reasons.
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Because they are much more difficult fields...
You are comparing Apples and Oranges. I know plenty of people who are math/science majors and are struggling to write an essay (it's a requirement to graduate at my university to take at least one class that has a written component). Most of them end up repeating those classes.

At the same time, there were plenty of Arts majors who took some second year stats classes with me and struggled a lot although it wasn't even a 'real' math course. People have different talents and to say one is more difficult than the other is not fair. Unless you talk about a degree in recreation (yes my university actually offers that and those are the people I usually laugh at, esp when they talk about how tough it is...)

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Yeah, but does music require maxed out course load just to graduate?

5-6 courses plus 1-2 labs a semester.

Most people get music. Most people do not just get quantum physics or circuit design.
...every single Arts major at my university requires a maxed out course load, 5 courses per semester. I don't know what the deal with music is, but to say that "Most people get music" is far from true. Have an engineer major in music and vice versa and see what the result will be.
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Why's everyone complaining? This is the best news I've read all day. It means colleges have finally stopped dumbing down their courses and are beginning to weed out people who never should have been there in the first place. Only about 10 years too late....
actually, in the past 10 years, they've made it a lot easier for art students. the other classes have remained the same. by my understanding, engineering has been the only course that hasn't been.

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Yeah, this was a huge problem. Only the upper classes had good teachers.... the majority of the lower classes had teachers who could not teach or even speak conversation English.

One TA could barely write English, he was writing backwards "e" and other strange characters.
and aside from that, I think they also bring over their understanding of where the students stand. We don't have grade 13 here, so a lot of the time our teachers teach, for example algebra, expecting we took a course that had relation to it. Their country or province may have completely different teaching then we do here.

in ontario, if you want to go into engineering or a science, by my understanding, must go through grade 13. Or that might be Quebec. Ontario used to, that's for sure.

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First day of engineering classes....

"Look to the left, Look to the right, one of you will not be graduating."



Cause it's really really hard. If you don't get it, you're in trouble. Engineering course load is usually maxed out on credits and if you fail a requirement class... you are held back for a year since there is only one offering a year. However, this class is required before you can move on.

I double majored in Computer Engineer and Economics. Economics is a relatively hard major.... it was nothing compared to CE.
Lol, exactly. Our classes tend to only be 20 people, and roughly 1-2 people make it through. It tends to only be only due to one of our teachers. Typically, his failure rate is in the 90s. Last years engineering students had 1 pass through.

But at the other Unis, 1600 students walk in, 200-400 walk out to second year. By the last year, 20-40 go through.
Edited by Domino - 5/21/11 at 11:41pm
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Because in sciences, you are competing with all the medical school, dentistry school, veterinary and graduate hopefuls who all want to do better than you.
This is actually no longer true. They are more and more looking for applicants to med school who come from outside of science because science people are generally seen as not having very good people's skills.

And that's not my opinion, it's what I heard at a career workshop.
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Im in EE right now. The calculus has killed me, but I opted to retake classes than switch to an easier major.
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The english major will pay off when it comes to asking: "would you like some fries with that?"
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This is making me rethink my idea to major in engineering.

My passion is music and I know I would have tons of fun and do pretty well at being a high school, possibly college level music teacher, but I know they don't get paid much. I'm also good at physics, calculus, and computer science, which doesn't give me the warm/fuzzy feeling I get from music, but I've heard it pays well. I'm not sure engineering is such a blatant right choice anymore. :S
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