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I'm a sophomore EE student at Drexel, on a 5-year program. Words of wisdom:

If you can't hack a 3.0+ your freshman year in engineering, switch majors. You won't make it. Seriously it's just calculus, basic physics, and some chemistry. You're got differential equations and labs for your major ahead. People with the mindset of "ah I can pull it together next term" are the first to fail.

Once you start courses for your major (around your sophomore year) get used to getting 50's and 60's as your exam grades, this term there was never a passing grade for a class average. Your professors will curve the hell out of everything so don't even bother try to calculate what your final grade will be.

If you get an American professor who isn't 85 years old (and thus still out of the loop with modern styles of teaching, etc.) any time in your freshman or sophomore year, consider yourself lucky.

If this scares you away from the major, honestly it's a good thing. It's really difficult (and this a forum for nerds, so don't take that lightly) and it's important to weigh the salary against the aggravation of the work and the very real possibility that you might not actually get the degree. I know I'm in that boat--if my Circuits class doesn't get curved about the best grade I can walk away with is a D, and that requires me doing very well on the final.
Yes. I had three terrible semesters in EE where I wasn't getting past 3.0 either. Taking a course-load of 10 credit hours (3 lectures, 1 lab) was far more than taking a 16 credit hour semester full of liberal arts courses. I honestly had that same "I'll do better next semester" mentality until I realized that the load was just too much for me. I had to cut back, regroup and figure things out for almost a full year before I leapt back into it for a year and a half and graduated with a 3.01 GPA. Engineering, especially electrical, is hell. It is one of the most math heavy majors you'll ever take. Most of your classes WILL be like math courses. It's scary and most people will hate it.
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Yes. I had three terrible semesters in EE where I wasn't getting past 3.0 either. Taking a course-load of 10 credit hours (3 lectures, 1 lab) was far more than taking a 16 credit hour semester full of liberal arts courses. I honestly had that same "I'll do better next semester" mentality until I realized that the load was just too much for me. I had to cut back, regroup and figure things out for almost a full year before I leapt back into it for a year and a half and graduated with a 3.01 GPA. Engineering, especially electrical, is hell. It is one of the most math heavy majors you'll ever take. Most of your classes WILL be like math courses. It's scary and most people will hate it.
That's where I'm at right now. However I'm going to a different type of math field, more chemistry oriented. Unfortunately where I want to go in life and what I want to do in life are two different things. I'll have to learn the math and I can, I'm just lazy. I currently have a 3.1 GPA from this semester (my total GPA is 2.6, that's another story). I realized that I'm going to have to work my ass off, so I've decided that while I'm in school I probably won't work (can't manage it, mental thing). It's true though, you have to really think about what you are going to do and how you want to get there. If you don't understand your limitations, even with the best intentions, you won't get there.
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Nice thing about geology? You only need Calc 1 and 2 for your undergrad. Higher is only required for certain graduate programs.
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I'm going to hate going back to school for Computer Science.

The high level maths are going to kick my balls in. Hopefully these teachers are better then my previous teachers.
post #95 of 341
The root of the problem lies with the presumption by many students that their primary goal in uni is to "have fun". "Work hard, play hard" beats "be a lazy worthless student" any day.
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Easy fixes:

Ditch the "gen ed" crap. I learned NOTHING new in all of my gen ed classes. They were a massive waste of time. I had already learned all that crap in the last 12 years in school.

Ditch the crappy tenure teachers. Student ratings are usually quite accurate on professors. If they aren't doing a good job, then they should be fired. Plain and simple. In my Circuits II class, the test averages hovered around 20 (out of 60). Consistently. That's not a problem with the students. That's a problem with the professor.
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Easy fixes:

Ditch the "gen ed" crap. I learned NOTHING new in all of my gen ed classes. They were a massive waste of time. I had already learned all that crap in the last 12 years in school.

Ditch the crappy tenure teachers. Student ratings are usually quite accurate on professors. If they aren't doing a good job, then they should be fired. Plain and simple. In my Circuits II class, the test averages hovered around 20 (out of 60). Consistently. That's not a problem with the students. That's a problem with the professor.
Students are not inocent lol , they are part of the problem too.
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It's not just that English/Biology/Business is easier, but almost every Engineering school starts you out by drilling busy work in you for two years straight. So not only is engineering school a commitment, but it's a commitment to suspend all other aspects of your life (health, social life) for stupid work. I absolutely despised my engineering program, but I finished and graduated in the top of my class. Surprise! I have no interest in going into the traditional engineering industry anymore.
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It's not just that English/Biology/Business is easier
I'm guessing you've never taken a serious Bio class...
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Civil Engineering student here. To anyone who's in high school/underclassmen years, the AP/CLEP is your friend! Only because of the CLEP/AP and dual enrollment courses was I able to have an average of 12-13 credit hours per semester. You WILL need that extra time to cut it in any engineering major. If you don't have at least 20 credit hours entering your freshman year, you can forget it. No way are you going to survive back-to-back 18 credit hour semesters. Period.
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