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post #1 of 11
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I was thinking about how temps would vary with a high-end setup in a case (not going to specify a certain case or case type) versus simply plopping the setup on a non-electrically-conductive surface (wood, glass, etc.).

here are some points that were used/made when i had a discussion with a... person on IRC:

Closed Circuit cooling:
  • High-CFM fans (delta) to move the air quickly
  • tighter case to help continuity of airflow and closed-circuitness
  • production of an air channel provides better cooling
Open-air cooling:
  • table-top fan blowing across the motherboard
  • open system means the room is its case
  • large airspace of the room is infinitely better than a closed circuit


comments, suggestions, free money- all accepted.
post #2 of 11
I'd go with closed circuit, simply because having computer parts all over your desk looks like crap.
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Originally Posted by VanillaCena;13593838 
I'd go with closed circuit, simply because having computer parts all over your desk looks like crap.

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Yep, bad looking computers are always tons hotter. rolleyes.gif

I ran mine in a terrible case for a while, it's now on a testbed with no fans other than one 80mm on the hard drive, the CPU cooler, and the two on the GPU cooler. I didn't see much difference in temps but I imagine they would have been cooler had I had a decent case.
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post #5 of 11
If the case is done right then it can be better than open air. All open air has is the natural airflow, but in a closed case you can direct the air where you want.

It also looks better, unless you get a test bench or DD torture rack.
post #6 of 11
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Originally Posted by Boyboyd;13593867 
If the case is done right then it can be better than open air. All open air has is the natural airflow, but in a closed case you can direct the air where you want.

It also looks better, unless you get a test bench or DD torture rack.

this +1

Cases that are well designed , and used properly can improve air flow. As well as look great doing it!!!!biggrin.gif
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post #7 of 11
Thread Starter 
what's all this about looking great? damn ricers...

performance > visuals
post #8 of 11
open is better for performance, assuming you get the right airflow over it. That said, when you are talking about deltas and channels, its kind of getting to the point of diminishing returns.


The real question is do you value your ears or your eyes more? lol
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post #9 of 11
Its a fine balance of form and function when it comes to case or nocase. I have tried both and got a 3-5* drop in temps using a case. I was able to direct the airflow better to the areas needed. I guess its all a matter personal preference.
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post #10 of 11
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what's all this about looking great? damn ricers...

performance > visuals
Looking great as in stylish without crappy LED or gay side windows.
But I agree with you ricer cases are a disgrace.
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