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I'm back from listening to some more music. I agree with one of chalks old posts that the ALC889 (his was actually the 892) is only 2/3 as loud as the Titanium HD at the same volume, but still, there's no difference with headphones.

He says he's using speakers..
Edited by cuad - 5/22/11 at 4:01pm
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I'm back from listening to some more music. I can confirm one of chalks old posts that the ALC889 (his was actually the 892) is only 2/3 as loud as the Titanium HD at the same volume, but still, there's no difference with headphones.

He says he's using speakers..
Yeah, well have you ever considered that maybe there is a difference but you're just not hearing it?

As chalk said, some people can and some can't. Maybe you can't. Is there anything wrong with that? I don't think so.
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Yeah, well have you ever considered that maybe there is a difference but you're just not hearing it?

As chalk said, some people can and some can't. Maybe you can't. Is there anything wrong with that? I don't think so.
I have, but I can easily hear the difference between cheap headphones, the RX700s and the AD700s, so I don't think that's likely.
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I have, but I can easily hear the difference between cheap headphones, the RX700s and the AD700s, so I don't think that's likely.
So then how do you account for people who are hearing a difference when all they are using are headphones? How do you explain it?


Edit: wait, let me guess: the placebo effect, right?
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I said it in an earlier post a) listening to the same music at a different volume, b) perceptive construction, c) bad settings or d) poorly designed motherboard
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I said it in an earlier post a) listening to the same music at a different volume, b) perceptive construction, c) bad settings or d) poorly designed motherboard
K. Well still: have you considered that maybe it's just your ears (the way your brain is processing the audio)? There are many, many, many people upgrading from good onboard audio to decent sound cards who are hearing immediate improvements with their headphones. I've seen threads about it, I've seen replies to other people's threads about it, and there even appear to be a couple of replies in this thread about it.

So I guess they're all crazy and you're the only one who knows the truth.

I guess this brings me to a question: what's your theory regarding why an upgrade from good onboard audio to a decent sound card only affects speakers and not headphones?
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Cuad:

Something else that adds to both of our opinions......

I had an OCZ power supply 850 watt a while ago, that it took me months to find how badly of a buzz and distortion it added to my front panel jacks and my onboard audio. When switching back to dedicated audio, it took a few more months for the power supply's poor functioning to permeate that as well.

Onboard is not shielded from the get-go. So the poor sound quality is immediately noticeable. Before the power supply finally blew, it gave me horrible static in my dedicated card as well.

Cheers to all,
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No chance OP. Like you, I've got an ALC889 and I've compared it to nothing less than two Essence STXs with headphones worth more than yours.

There's no difference, with stereo headphones, that can't be explained by a) listening to music at a higher volume, b) perceptive construction or c) using gimmicky EQ settings.
High end headphones need amplification to run properly.

On board sound is decent for low end headphones, but when you get past 35> Ohm headphone you NEED something better.

Asus DG is only 30 dollars, why wouldn't you buy one?
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High end headphones need amplification to run properly.

On board sound is decent for low end headphones, but when you get past 35> Ohm headphone you NEED something better.

Asus DG is only 30 dollars, why wouldn't you buy one?
hehehe

He has the Titanium HD too.
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So I guess they're all crazy and you're the only one who knows the truth.
I don't think I'm the only one.

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I guess this brings me to a question: what's your theory regarding why an upgrade from good onboard audio to a decent sound card only affects speakers and not headphones?
I can't and haven't said anything about speakers because I've never used any.

Quote:
On board sound is decent for low end headphones, but when you get past 35> Ohm headphone you NEED something better.

Asus DG is only 30 dollars, why wouldn't you buy one?
Well sure, buy a DG if you have some denons or beyer dynamics.

Just to add: I have used a DG before. I would recommend it to people with older onboard audio.
Edited by cuad - 5/22/11 at 4:41pm
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