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Hey guys so I have a razer deathadder and mx518 for wired gaming but I just moved to a 1080p tv and I need a wireless gaming mouse to complement it.

At the moment I'm using a wireless logitech m310(not gaming mouse) that came with the keyboard and its not good at all for games so much that I'm going to place an order for a new mouse this weekend.

These are the options I have found so far.



Logitech G700


I don't have bluetooth on my desktop for the Razer Orochi.

I'm also wary of going with Microsoft as I haven't had the best experience with their cheap mice that kept breaking down within weeks. I don't know how the more expensive gaming ones are in their range but I've read a few reviews on the X8 that gave the same feeling I had with their cheap standard mice. What do you guys think?

Mamba and Rat 9 whilst I'd love to have a look at those they are out of my price range although I know wireless gaming mouse is quite limited for what I am asking for so if the likes of Mamba and Rat 9 have a really big difference that is worth it between the cheaper alternatives listed above than I am willing to take a look.

Any other wireless gaming mice I've missed please share.

I'm also wondering whether the roccat pyra would be good enough at 1080p resolution with a 1600dpi.
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If you love the death adder then the mamba is a wireless version of it.
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also the R.A.T. 9 has a build quality thats outstanding, a lot better than the cheap plasticy feel of razer mice and logicrap mice. it stands up to much abuse, definitely worth the price range. im having a mamba come in tuesday so i can report back on how i like it
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post #4 of 34
Quote:
Originally Posted by EarlZ View Post
If you love the death adder then the mamba is a wireless version of it.
Not exactly. While the Mamba and DeathAdder have a very similar shape, the Mamba uses a laser sensor while the DeathAdder uses an optical one.

The requirements for gaming surfaces is quite different for the different sensor types. Optical mice are very versatile and will perform well on almost any surface, soft or hard. Laser mice do not function well on soft surfaces; a hard gaming surface or a very flat desk/table are required.

As for the Mamba, however, there are some problems. While Razer claims a 1ms response time for the mouse even in wireless mode, there is noticeable input lag and the battery makes the device significantly heavier than it would be otherwise. Other problems include the mouse occasionally becoming completely unresponsive (requiring the user to unplug/replug) and the sensor taking an instant to begin registering movement again after the mouse is lifted. Overall, the Mamba has been a very annoying mouse.

Caveat Emptor.
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post #5 of 34
Quote:
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Not exactly. While the Mamba and DeathAdder have a very similar shape, the Mamba uses a laser sensor while the DeathAdder uses an optical one.

The requirements for gaming surfaces is quite different for the different sensor types. Optical mice are very versatile and will perform well on almost any surface, soft or hard. Laser mice do not function well on soft surfaces; a hard gaming surface or a very flat desk/table are required.

As for the Mamba, however, there are some problems. While Razer claims a 1ms response time for the mouse even in wireless mode, there is noticeable input lag and the battery makes the device significantly heavier than it would be otherwise. Other problems include the mouse occasionally becoming completely unresponsive (requiring the user to unplug/replug) and the sensor taking an instant to begin registering movement again after the mouse is lifted. Overall, the Mamba has been a very annoying mouse.

Caveat Emptor.
actually soft surface is fine, i use a R.A.T. 7 which has the same sensor and it works no problem on my Goliathus Extended

as for the battery weight i find that a pro, i love me a heavy mouse, i wish my rat was heavier i already maxed it
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post #6 of 34
G700 man! I'm getting one for myself as well
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post #7 of 34
I'd go with the G700. It has the option of going wired which is a huge plus.
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post #8 of 34
I've tried the Rat9, found it too wide and too heavy for me.
The mamba had massive tracking issues here
The Pyra feels good right now except for the side buttons.
There was some thread that showed a way to calculate if the DPI is enough for your resolution but I forgot the name.
Edited by mosi - 5/22/11 at 1:00pm
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post #9 of 34
Quote:
Originally Posted by InTeNsE View Post
actually soft surface is fine, i use a R.A.T. 7 which has the same sensor and it works no problem on my Goliathus Extended

as for the battery weight i find that a pro, i love me a heavy mouse, i wish my rat was heavier i already maxed it
I was basically paraphrasing part of a guide written by Razer themselves. Say what you want about their products, but those guys know their stuff.

Quote:
Optical sensors have set themselves as the standard in the gaming scene and are well-tuned to work well with hard and soft mats. Laser sensors, on the other hand, are a new breed of sensors that offers higher precision compared to optical sensors. New generation laser mouse sensors work off the Doppler Effect. Laser beams fired from the sensor onto the mousing surface reflects back up into the path and mixes with the original beam. This causes a flux in the power of the laser that is proportional to the speed of the mouse. Compared to the standard optical sensors, these new generation sensors do not rely on optical imaging to determine movement of the mouse.


Due to the inherent nature of how laser sensors work, they perform better on rigid, uniform surfaces like hard mats due to its sensitivity to movements of the mouse. When used with a soft mat, the sinking of the mouse mat caused by the weight of the mouse creates an increased distance between the sensor and the surface. Laser sensors might see this as additional movement causing erratic movements on the on-screen cursor.
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post #10 of 34
The OP said the Mamba and Rat 9 are out of his price range and the first two replies suggest the Mamba and Rat 9 lol..

Reading comprehension fail.

Anyways, I have a G700 and I like it. I had a G5 for 5 years, so the move wasn't too drastic. It's very heavy, but I like the weight, I feel it's easier to control. Can't go wrong with 13 buttons either. I cannot live without all the buttons for web browsing; I have 3 set to cut/copy/paste, another for reload, one for new tab, one for close tab, one for minimize, one for home.. it's amazing.

If you go with the G700, do yourself a favor and buy a 2 battery Eneloop charger + 2 extra batteries. It'll probably run you ~10 on amazon. It will save you the hassle of charging with the cord, and give you extra batteries when the one gets low. I get about 2 days of heavy use on a full charge.
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