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I built my first build in January and now I'm releasing that the H70 is unbelievable annoying to install (having to take it out to put in my B3 board) and the radiator takes up immense amounts of space. Anyway, I decided to try custom watercooling. I've made a rough mock up of the parts I may buy, please tell me if any of the parts aren't good or there's better parts close to the price or cheaper.

Pump/Reservoir: XSPC Dual 750 Bay Pump Reservoir

CPU Plate: EK-Supreme HF - Full Copper 775/1156/1366/AM3

Radiator: Black Ice SR-1 360 Radiator

Tubing: PVC 10/8 Clear High Flex Hose 1m

Dye: UV Red FluoProtect Water Additive 50ml



All of this will be housed in a HAF X with a P67-GD65 motherboard, i5 2500k CPU and a MSI GTX 460 GPU and an Antec 650 watt (also, is this enough to power the whole system?)

I plan for it to go: Res out--->Rad in--->Rad out--->CPU in---> CPU out---> Res in.

I would like to have GPU cooling set up aswell, but I'm not entirely sure how you do it, in terms of where you put the actual plate.

Any help is appreciated. If anything this will serve as a build log for me. I'll put some pictures up of my build later for a kind of before and after thing. Also, do I need to apply thermal paste to the CPU block?
Edited by [TheDoctor] - 5/23/11 at 1:42am
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Might wanna try UV reactive tubing rather than dye. Just a suggestion I hear many give here as dye can clog your loop components
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Welcome to OCN, lots of great info here. The Radiator you picked is very nice, I have one and have been very happy with it. I can't comment on too many of your components specifically, most of my parts are from Koolance.

Cooling the GPU is a little involved, but not bad. All you need is a few very small screwdrivers, a little patience, and some time to do it right. The water blocks for GPUs generally come with instructions (they can also be found on the web for individual cards), but it involves taking the card apart to remove the case, fan, and heatsink. After cleaning everything off you add heatsink compound and mount the new block (in my case there were about 50 tiny screws to mount it). My first took me about an hour (really took my time not wanting to break anything) but I just did another one this morning that only took about 15 minutes. It's a little intimidating at first, just take your time.

After lots of testing and changing my setup, here is the loop that works best for me: reservoir>pump>radiator1> CPU>radiator2> GPUs 1&2>back to reservoir.

This way each component has the coolest water it can get. This setup keeps both my GPUs around 36*C fully loaded and my CPU around 60*C.

There are great websites out there with reviews comparing water blocks and radiators, spend some time reading them before making any purchases. I rushed in to some things and ended up spending extra money correcting mistakes.

Great site for reviews: http://skinneelabs.com/
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1. no dye, just use distilled water and killcoil/biocide, or you're going to get gunk/bacteria/staining issues
2. the radiator you want is going to be dependent on fan speed
3. switch to an EK Supreme HF cpu block
4. compression fittings or barbs?
5. I don't think 1m of tubing is enough for a 1st time build
6. you don't need another reservoir (the FrozenQ) if you already have a bay reservoir
7. adding GPU to loop is easy just buy a GPU block/fittings
8. loop order doesn't really matter, just Res before the pump, which you don't need to worry about with a pump/res combo
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Originally Posted by catcherintherye View Post
1. no dye, just use distilled water and killcoil/biocide, or you're going to get gunk/bacteria/staining issues
2. the radiator you want is going to be dependent on fan speed
3. switch to an EK Supreme HF cpu block
4. compression fittings or barbs?
5. I don't think 1m of tubing is enough for a 1st time build
6. you don't need another reservoir (the FrozenQ) if you already have a bay reservoir
7. adding GPU to loop is easy just buy a GPU block/fittings
8. loop order doesn't really matter, just Res before the pump, which you don't need to worry about with a pump/res combo
What size fans should I use? 3x120mm? Also I think I should have them exahust right?
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Welcome to OCN, lots of great info here. The Radiator you picked is very nice, I have one and have been very happy with it. I can't comment on too many of your components specifically, most of my parts are from Koolance.

Cooling the GPU is a little involved, but not bad. All you need is a few very small screwdrivers, a little patience, and some time to do it right. The water blocks for GPUs generally come with instructions (they can also be found on the web for individual cards), but it involves taking the card apart to remove the case, fan, and heatsink. After cleaning everything off you add heatsink compound and mount the new block (in my case there were about 50 tiny screws to mount it). My first took me about an hour (really took my time not wanting to break anything) but I just did another one this morning that only took about 15 minutes. It's a little intimidating at first, just take your time.

After lots of testing and changing my setup, here is the loop that works best for me: reservoir>pump>radiator1> CPU>radiator2> GPUs 1&2>back to reservoir.

This way each component has the coolest water it can get. This setup keeps both my GPUs around 36*C fully loaded and my CPU around 60*C.

There are great websites out there with reviews comparing water blocks and radiators, spend some time reading them before making any purchases. I rushed in to some things and ended up spending extra money correcting mistakes.

Great site for reviews: http://skinneelabs.com/
Yeah, I thought I would have to take my card apart, I'll have to think about it.
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What size fans should I use? 3x120mm? Also I think I should have them exahust right?
If the rad calls for 120s, stick with them. There are a TON of reviews and comparisons of fans, do a search and they pop up quick. Some people have the fans push, others have them pull, some people set them up on both sides of the rad in a push/pull configuration for the most airflow possible. I have mine all set to pull and haven't had any problems. The sky is really the limit on fans, but which ones to get is really dependent on the radiator you choose.
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Ok, I changed my CPU block to this one. Also, whats the difference between barbed and compression fittings? Which one is better, in your opinions?

@mike597, I assumed it would be better to have them in exahust because hot air rises, so it'll push it all out right? But if I put two fans on the back of my fan as exhaust that should do the trick. I'll read up on it.
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Ok, I changed my CPU block to this one. Also, whats the difference between barbed and compression fittings? Which one is better, in your opinions?

@mike597, I assumed it would be better to have them in exahust because hot air rises, so it'll push it all out right? But if I put two fans on the back of my fan as exhaust that should do the trick. I'll read up on it.
Hot air does rise, just slowly. I've never had a problem with this setup, keeps everything nice and cool. The air coming out of my rads isn't real warm as I tend to oversize my rads.

As for compressions vs barbs, I tend to go with compressions. Both are extensively used and when properly installed work the same, all depends on who is installing them. Barbs are usually secured with zip ties, which I'm not comfortable with. I have quite a bit of gear in both my machines and prefer the strength of compressions. The downside to compressions is they are bulky, cost more, and are limiting in what tubing will fit them.
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I'll go with the compressions, as I'm not so comfortable with zip ties aswell. What's the best size tubing, in terms of diameter? Or is it just preference?
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