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Hmm, mine is reference revision two, memory express doesnt carry any more original reference designs.

Mine is identical to yours except lacking a bios switch and has a really small vaport chamber cooler.
    
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By the way, how can I allow AMD overdrive to clock my card past 840 mhz core?
    
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Don't use overdrive, don't even worry about the little lock, just use afterburner, and a config file that looks like this:

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UnofficialOverclockingEULA= I confirm that I am aware of unofficial overclocking limitations and fully understand that MSI will not provide me any support on it
UnofficialOverclockingMode= 1
AccessibilityCheckingPeriod= 0
If you're looking for the file, it's in

C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Msi Afterburner\\MSIAfterburner.cfg

When you get it up and running it should look something like this



If you want after market cooling, you could always go with something like this, but then you might need to make sure that you have extra room just in case you want to go crossfire later on.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-008-_-Product

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-061-_-Product

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hd 6950 1gb performs exactly like the 2gb version under 1920x 1200 resolution. About the unlocking, you can only unlock shaders and it's not guaranteed to work, if it does work, you will only notice 1-3% performance increase. Not worth it at all.
Does that mean the 2gb will play smoother on a 40'' 120hz lcd ?
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...or a GTX 560 direct cu II.
Glad you did not get that. Non-TI GTX 560 is only worthwhile if you are getting the absolute cheapest stock version.

It annoys me that two cards that are so different could have the same name. The GTX 560 non-TI has about 50 less shader processors. You would really have to OC that a lot to get into the vanilla GTX 560 TI performance range.
    
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Does that mean the 2gb will play smoother on a 40'' 120hz lcd ?
Only if you're playing at super high resolutions, since you didn't tell us your res, we don't really know. EG: It's great for eyefinity, and plays really smooth on 3 1680x1050 monitors 99% of the time.
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Only if you're playing at super high resolutions, since you didn't tell us your res, we don't really know. EG: It's great for eyefinity, and plays really smooth on 3 1680x1050 monitors 99% of the time.

well id try to maxx my res most of the time cause its fullhd and **** so 1920X1080. IF the gtx 560 ti will play the same as a 2gb 6950 would on a Single 40'' 120hz lcd tv then ill get 560 ti cause its cheaper $230 for me and $290 for msi 2gb 6950. If there isn't any performance increase on 1 40'' might as well get the 1gb 560ti .
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Woah, you're comparing 2 different cards, I thought you were talking about the 1gb 6950 and the 2gb 6950, you can get a 1gb 6950 for 215 right here:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...653&CatId=7005

From what I've heard the 6950 is faster, by how much I don't quite know, look at the benchmarks before you buy. I made that mistake more than once, don't rush into buying a brick that you don't want.

BTW, my friend has a hd TV ( 1920x1080 ) and everything runs maxed on it, even Crysis gets a nice respectable 40ish fps for the 1gb 6950, but again this isn't every level, and I don't know the real benchmarks, I'll look some up later and post, but like I said don't rush into buying something. Bescides unlocking a 2gb 6950 is piss easy, and you'll have gtx 570 performance in 75% of all the games you play. ( Benchmarks vary game to game, like I said look stuff up )


EDIT:

Okay here's a review of the XFX and Sapphire amd hd 6950 / 6970, it shows a lot of games with a lot of data, and apparently at 1920x1080 stock the 6970 is neck and neck with a 580 in crysis warhead, Check it out here:

http://www.overclockersclub.com/revi...0_review/9.htm

Okay here is the graph I was referring to with a lot of the extra data removed.

From left to right:

Nvidia GTX 580, AMD HD 6970 AMD HD 6950 and Nvidia GTX 480



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Woah, you're comparing 2 different cards, I thought you were talking about the 1gb 6950 and the 2gb 6950, you can get a 1gb 6950 for 215 right here:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...653&CatId=7005

From what I've heard the 6950 is faster, by how much I don't quite know, look at the benchmarks before you buy. I made that mistake more than once, don't rush into buying a brick that you don't want.

BTW, my friend has a hd TV ( 1920x1080 ) and everything runs maxed on it, even Crysis gets a nice respectable 40ish fps for the 1gb 6950, but again this isn't every level, and I don't know the real benchmarks, I'll look some up later and post, but like I said don't rush into buying something. Bescides unlocking a 2gb 6950 is piss easy, and you'll have gtx 570 performance in 75% of all the games you play. ( Benchmarks vary game to game, like I said look stuff up )


EDIT:

Okay here's a review of the XFX and Sapphire amd hd 6950 / 6970, it shows a lot of games with a lot of data, and apparently at 1920x1080 stock the 6970 is neck and neck with a 580 in crysis warhead, Check it out here:

http://www.overclockersclub.com/revi...0_review/9.htm

Okay here is the graph I was referring to with a lot of the extra data removed.

From left to right:

Nvidia GTX 580, AMD HD 6970 AMD HD 6950 and Nvidia GTX 480


The only ref 2gb 6950 they have in stock locally is a Diamond Raedon 2gb 6950, Do the Diamond Cards Flash like the rest of the reference cards are?
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Just look for the switch, it's your key to being SUPER safe, otherwise yeah I'm quite sure it flashes real easy. Even if it doesn't have the switch, it doesn't mean that you can't flash it, or even recover your card from a bad flash, but it's just something that makes it a hell of a lot easier. I've flashed several cards before, and it's all without problems, I tried a tweaked 3870x2 bios about 3 months ago to squeeze a little extra juice out of it before I finally gave in and upgraded. That too was easy, just remember if you don't have a switch and something goes wrong, don't turn off your computer, just try something else, try flashing again.

If it's in stock locally, you could probably ask to have it opened and see if there is a switch on the side of it. ( It's really small, and is set to the 2 position stock )

If it's this one you should be fine:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?EdpNo=7092103

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814103181

You can even see it in the pic if you look close ( On the newegg pictures by the crossfire pins )
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