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Some of you guys are probably laughing at me right now. I too am laughing at myself and embarrassed at the same time. Why? Well some of you guys have seen my no good guide in the Sound Cards and Computer Audio question. Some may think its okay so now they're wondering why I'm making this. Truth is, I still have no clue on what to get. I made a thread a couple months ago looking for a receiver but that one ultimately failed. However, the good thing about that one is that I learned the wonders of a receiver. Anyways, I'm currently looking for a receiver.

My budget (again) is around $400. I'm not too sure what I'm looking for besides something good.

I always like things in a new condition. Its an annoying habit since I can get a good used receiver for less that performs just the same.

Anyways, I'm looking to power a set of NHT SuperZero 2.0 speakers and if I have enough money to spare, a NHT SuperZero Subwoofer. I'm also going to power a Denon AH-D2000 unless I can find something better for the price. I don't know how many watts I need to drive these so I have no idea.

For the type, I don't care. I doubt I'll be able to hear the difference between an audio/video and stereo receiver unless the difference is extremely audible. I wouldn't really call myself a golden ear. I can tell pitches (I need to for piano and violin) quite easily since I've been doing it for years. I can hear differences in sound quality like the warmness some people say that tube amplifiers and digital-to-audio converters make.

Features to me don't really matter.

In terms of brands, I'm looking at Denon, Marantz, Onkyo, and Yamaha. Pioneer is in the mid-ground, about to be kicked off yet it's still hanging.

Thanks guys,
Hybrid
Edited by HybridCore - 5/22/11 at 4:18pm
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just wondering...why did Onkyo get kicked off? that'd be my first brand suggestion.

Perfect Onkyo. Perfect Output power for the 2.0
Harman/Kardon with plenty of power and sound quality
Yamaha that's 100.00 off right now
Edited by alphaOri - 5/22/11 at 3:26pm
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Was told they had sound quality control problems. I like Onkyo. I think they're a nice brand. I think it was just stupidity that told be to remove it after one post against them. I'll add it. Thanks for reminding me. I'm also pretty sure the HT-RC360 is outdated but I'll see what other people recommend down the road. For Onkyo, I looked at the TX-8050, TX-NR509, and the TX-SR309. I threw on the TX-SR309 since there's a possibility I won't even need 75 watts to drive the headphones, speakers, and subwoofer.
Edited by HybridCore - 5/22/11 at 4:21pm
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It's awfully hard to go wrong--I've had receivers from Kenwood (multiple), Onkyo and Yamaha. Never a problem with any of them. Just be careful if you want a receiver with a multi-channel input..over the past year or so this feature has just been reserved for very expensive tiered receivers. With SACD not making it big mass market wise in the US, manufactures have dropped the input---BUT some video editors that want to monitor the surround mix as they assemble it may have need for such an input.

Other than that it's getting the most bang for the dollar--what features are important to you ? Satellite and/or HD Radio, built-in media server, the latest HDMI version capable of 3D and blah blah

I just picked up a yammie RX-V650 for the computer system that is several generations old---it does not even have HDMI inputs, but it did have the muti-channel input I was seeking. Almost appears to be in like-new condition--likely a 5 or 6 hundred plus dollar receiver in the day---picked up off ebay from a lil ole lady from San Fran for only 90 smackeroos.

I know you want new but just saying...

Oh BTW currently a Onkyo 705 is driving my home theater and it has been spectacular. I have a Kenwood in the garage, and a Kenwood in the exercise room. Also never an issue.



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Was told they had sound quality control problems. I like Onkyo. I think they're a nice brand. I think it was just stupidity that told be to remove it after one post against them. I'll add it. Thanks for reminding me. I'm also pretty sure the HT-RC360 is outdated but I'll see what other people recommend down the road. For Onkyo, I looked at the TX-8050, TX-NR509, and the TX-SR309. I threw on the TX-SR309 since there's a possibility I won't even need 75 watts to drive the headphones, speakers, and subwoofer.
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I only need 2.1 at most. Stereo receivers can cost as much as audio/video receivers but audio/video receivers are more common and have more features so it doesn't really make a difference to me. I just went to Kenwood's site and I didn't see any receivers.

Edit: Here are the ones I'm currently looking at...

Denon AVR-1312
Denon AVR-1612
Denon AVR-1712
Denon AVR-1912
Yamaha HTR-3064
Yamaha HTR-4064
Yamaha RX-V371
Yamaha RX-V471
Yamaha R-S300
Yamaha R-S500
Yamaha R-S700
Marantz NR1501
Marantz SR4023
Marantz PM5004
And all of the new 2011 Pioneers.
Edited by HybridCore - 5/22/11 at 6:42pm
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I'm currently using this.

http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio..._u/?mode=model

Got mine for about 250 at a local electronics store. The sound quality is AMAZING through hdmi.

Im using my dads old Infinity speakers (over 10 years old) and the things STILL sound completely amazing. They don't distort when the sounds get higher either. Gaming or Blurays the sound is completely amazing compared to when I was using sound cards and the Logitech G51's.

Quite frankly, stick with Yamaha or Denon, they both are amazeballs.

If you choose to go the HDMI route via gfx card PM me, it can be a pain to set it up.
Edited by SpykeZ - 5/22/11 at 10:03pm
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^ $250!?!?!?!?!?! Wow.

I was planning on staying with Marantz, Denon (being related companies), and Yamaha. Which one would be best for a single room 2.1 setup though? Just give me a brand. I'm leaning towards Denon right now since I wanted one to match the headphones but whichever one gives me the best performance. Can anybody tell me the voltage I'll need to drive the NHT SuperZero 2.0, NHT SuperZero Subwoofer, and the Denon AH-D2000? Just give me the minimum voltage please. Thanks.

Edit: Another reason I dropped Onkyo.

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Onkyo has been cutting back. I completely agree. In fact their NR509 THD (total harmonic distortion) rating are spec'd lower than the previous TX-SR508 model. However, I do not know if this necessarily equates to their reliability.

I really have no big recommendations, as I believe most receivers within this price range performs very similarly. I would take a look at a few of Denon's offerings. The 891 at 400 dollars is a very competent contender for best receiver in that price bracket.

Also don't be afraid to buy refurbished. Accessories4less has factory reconditioned receivers with a 1 year warranty at a much lower cost.
I know it's just another person but lots of people will probably say to me that Onkyo isn't doing so well but that would be the same with the people who say that they're holding up.
Edited by HybridCore - 5/23/11 at 4:05am
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^ $250!?!?!?!?!?! Wow.

I was planning on staying with Marantz, Denon (being related companies), and Yamaha. Which one would be best for a single room 2.1 setup though? Just give me a brand. I'm leaning towards Denon right now since I wanted one to match the headphones but whichever one gives me the best performance. Can anybody tell me the voltage I'll need to drive the NHT SuperZero 2.0, NHT SuperZero Subwoofer, and the Denon AH-D2000? Just give me the minimum voltage please. Thanks.
Voltage? What you're looking for is power; ie how many watts will it take to drive the speakers. This depends on their impedance and sensitivity. The subwoofer is powered, I would assume, and has it's own built in amp so it's not an issue. And you won't have to worry about driving the Denon's.
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those speakers will work with any receiver on the market...they're not difficult to drive. you should just get an older, used receiver on craigslist. i don't recommend the nht sub.
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Hey Gorb. Would the lows still sound good on the SuperZero 2.0s without the sub? Like I said earlier, I have an annoying habit of wanting things new.
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