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Oh I know that part, but I'm more leaning towards asking myself if you expect performance gains or something like that? If you're running a thuban, sure, but bulldozers/piledrivers don't benefit from higher NB clocks.

Bulldozer. Why are people all over the Internet trying to put their CPU/NB on FX chips to 2400-2600.. are they all misinformed (could very well be so)?
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Bulldozer. Why are people all over the Internet trying to put their CPU/NB on FX chips to 2400-2600.. are they all misinformed (could very well be so)?

I never did see anyone do this.... My board puts mine at 2600 stock? It's been proven (I should find the source, but I don't have the time to do so, this is just the first thread I found with people saying the same things http://www.overclock.net/t/1418241/overclocking-my-nb-frequency and I just searched for NB frequency bulldozer), that raising NB on bulldozer/piledriver results in a pretty negligible performance increase. Now if you take a Thuban processor, that's another story, Thubans actually benefit from a higher NB frequency.
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Oh I know that part, but I'm more leaning towards asking myself if you expect performance gains or something like that? If you're running a thuban, sure, but bulldozers/piledrivers don't benefit from higher NB clocks.
You get better scores on aida64 memory test write/read/latency and you gain winrar benchmark too. So it gives something but not very much.
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I never did see anyone do this.... My board puts mine at 2600 stock? It's been proven (I should find the source, but I don't have the time to do so, this is just the first thread I found with people saying the same things http://www.overclock.net/t/1418241/overclocking-my-nb-frequency and I just searched for NB frequency bulldozer), that raising NB on bulldozer/piledriver results in a pretty negligible performance increase. Now if you take a Thuban processor, that's another story, Thubans actually benefit from a higher NB frequency.

Mine puts me at 2000 stock, only reason I want to know why .. when I change it to 2200/2400/2600 & boot to the OS.. always says 2000. A user here has suggested I need to keep cranking up the NB Core voltage until it sticks.. he has suggested that the MB is reverting due to the instability and just booting with the known good frequency.

I swear I'd got it to stick at 2200 & ran SuperPi.. the results were indeed somewhat positive but negligible.. but positive gains were there.
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You get better scores on aida64 memory test write/read/latency and you gain winrar benchmark too. So it gives something but not very much.

If benchmarks is what you're after, sure. I'm just saying that for everyday use the increase in performance is insignificant.

What exactly does the scores of aida64 and winrar translate to in actual computer usage? Is this tiny increase worth the increase stress on your NB (if it dies, you'll need a new board), if so, then by all means, overclock the crap out of your NB.
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If benchmarks is what you're after, sure. I'm just saying that for everyday use the increase in performance is insignificant.

What exactly does the scores of aida64 and winrar translate to in actual computer usage? Is this tiny increase worth the increase stress on your NB (if it dies, you'll need a new board), if so, then by all means, overclock the crap out of your NB.
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Mine puts me at 2000 stock, only reason I want to know why .. when I change it to 2200/2400/2600 & boot to the OS.. always says 2000. A user here has suggested I need to keep cranking up the NB Core voltage until it sticks.. he has suggested that the MB is reverting due to the instability and just booting with the known good frequency.

I swear I'd got it to stick at 2200 & ran SuperPi.. the results were indeed somewhat positive but negligible.. but positive gains were there.
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Not really, I overclock my NB a crap load for benchmarks, but you still haven't told me what you're overclocking your NB for. If it's for benchmarks like I already said, do it. If it's for everyday usage, I wouldn't and don't.

For overclocking your NB you can follow the same method as you would do with a processor. Raise voltage, raise frequency, check temps, rinse and repeat. If you check what kind of NB your board has and what temps it can handle, you can run it at that temperature for benchmarks easily, they always put a kind of safety factors on temps, you can sometimes go a bit above (although I'm not suggesting it) for short periods, not extended usage or really long benchmarks.

A reason your NB might be downclocking to 2000 again, might just be something you didn't/did enable/disable in your BIOS. Save your current bios profile to a slot, then revert to stock and try again, if it doesn't work you can always load your other profile again. Also, if you want to see your NB frequency capacity, you can lower you multiplier to about 20x and put 1.3v in it to make sure it's stable and won't be a limiting factor in your NB overclock. Same with RAM, put it to a low multiplier so it isn't a limiting factor either. On top of that, only use 1 stick of ram when trying to find stable clocks/voltages for you NB. You can also raise your FSB above 200 if you're trying for a higher clock.

That better for an answer?
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Not really, I overclock my NB a crap load for benchmarks, but you still haven't told me what you're overclocking your NB for. If it's for benchmarks like I already said, do it. If it's for everyday usage, I wouldn't and don't.

For overclocking your NB you can follow the same method as you would do with a processor. Raise voltage, raise frequency, check temps, rinse and repeat. If you check what kind of NB your board has and what temps it can handle, you can run it at that temperature for benchmarks easily, they always put a kind of safety factors on temps, you can sometimes go a bit above (although I'm not suggesting it) for short periods, not extended usage or really long benchmarks.

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That better for an answer?

Yes, thank you. I have asked for this other tidbit previously with no luck as well.. Where can I find the current CPU/NB voltage either in the BIOS or OS (3rd party software) -- When I set the NB Core voltage offset (+/-) in BIOS, I have no way of confirming what its set voltage is.
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Oh I know that part, but I'm more leaning towards asking myself if you expect performance gains or something like that? If you're running a thuban, sure, but bulldozers/piledrivers don't benefit from higher NB clocks.


Why. Why do people keep saying this

Do you see thuban level of increase? No, do you see increase? And for someone nagging performed out just it worth it? yes

One of many things that do benifit. Ram disk.
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If benchmarks is what you're after, sure. I'm just saying that for everyday use the increase in performance is insignificant.

What exactly does the scores of aida64 and winrar translate to in actual computer usage? Is this tiny increase worth the increase stress on your NB (if it dies, you'll need a new board), if so, then by all means, overclock the crap out of your NB.
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Wow. The nb you can oc is not on your board first of all nb core aka cpu/nb (named so on almost all other board manufactures) and has not been on the board for quite a while. NB is on the board cpu/nb is on your cpu as it is the memory controller.

When running higher speed mem you have to oc it I and many others run 2400+ ram and most of those run 2600 cpu/nb I run 2700 on one rig and 2600 on the other.

All 24/7 and have been for almost since the 83xxs came out so please tell me how it kills anything
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Pioneer BDR-208DBK Blu-ray Writer Swiftech H20-220 EDGE HD Liquid Cooling Kit Swiftech Komodo 7970 Swiftech MCP-35X2 
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Logitech G510 XFX pro 1250w black edition Caselabs MAGNUM M8 Case Razer Naga 
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Sony 2.1 Razer Megalodon XFX pro 1250w black edition 
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8350 batch 1229 pgn  Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z gigabyte 7770 OC gigabyte 7770 OC 
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Pioneer BDR-208DBK Rosewill RCR-IM5001 USB2.0 75 in 1 internal Car... Swiftech MCP-35X White Top Swiftech Quiet Power 240  
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Swiftech Apogee HD Windows 7 Windows 8 LG E2242 
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Windows 8  Samsung 60" 120hz 3d LED TV Unknown Seasonic x750 
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AMD FX-8350 Gigabyte 990FXA-UD7 R7970-2PMD3GD5/OC  R7970-2PMD3GD5/OC  
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R7970-2PMD3GD5/OC  R7970-2PMD3GD5/OC  F3-2400C10D-16GTX  OCZ Agility 3 120GB  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
OCZ Agility 3 120GB  Seagate Barracuda 1TB  Segate Barracuda 3TB Rosewill RCR-IM5001 USB2.0 75 in 1 internal Car... 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
Pioneer BDR-208DBK Blu-ray Writer Swiftech H20-220 EDGE HD Liquid Cooling Kit Swiftech Komodo 7970 Swiftech MCP-35X2 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Swiftech MCP35X2 Heat Sink Swiftech MCP35X Reservoir Swiftech Komodo 7970 Swiftech Komodo 7970 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Alphacool 240mm XT45 Alphacool 120mm XT45 Alphacool 120mm UT60 FrozenQ PC Mods UV Meteor Light Limited Edition... 
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Koolance Radiator Mounting Bracket with Quick-R... Swiftech Komodo 7970 Windows 7 Windows 8  
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ASUS VG248QE Black 24" 144Hz 1ms  ASUS VG248QE Black 24" 144Hz 1ms  ASUS VG248QE Black 24" 144Hz 1ms  XFX FXTRISTAND Triple Display Monitor Stand  
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G510 XFX pro 1250w black edition Caselabs MAGNUM M8 Case Razer Naga 
AudioAudioOther
Sony 2.1 Razer Megalodon XFX pro 1250w black edition 
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F3-2400C10D-16GTX OCZ agaility 3 120  OCZ Agility 3 120gb  Seagate 7200rpm 1tb 
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Pioneer BDR-208DBK Rosewill RCR-IM5001 USB2.0 75 in 1 internal Car... Swiftech MCP-35X White Top Swiftech Quiet Power 240  
CoolingOSOSMonitor
Swiftech Apogee HD Windows 7 Windows 8 LG E2242 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG E2242 RAZER Black Lycosa Mirror Special Edition Seasonic x660 Cooler Master Storm Stryker 
Mouse
Razer Lachesis 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX 6100 Sabertooth 990fx R2.0 XFX 7770 Core Edition Samsung 1600 2x4 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 1600 2x4 Unknown as of now  Piorneer BDR-208DBK Swiftech H220  
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Can i use 4 120mm fan in cpu_fan socket? i now use 2 fans cpu socket one is for exhaust and one for cpu cooler but i want put my two top case fans too because they are pretty loud and i cant get work speedfan or easytune6 with sys_fan1 socket and my fans are PWN 4pin and i enebled in bios sys_fan1 settings and tried with disabled settings too and wont work frown.gif
And i dont want use hardware fan controllers i like how cpu_fan socket regulate automaitcaly settings
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