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Which disk controller should one use when installing windows 7 on a WD black hard drive ? AMD SATA AHCI Driver or the Microsoft AHCI Driver or just leave it on IDE mode.
Was going to use the AMD SATA AHCI Driver from http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3891#dl

Use the AMD AHCI driver and make sure it's set to AHCI in the BIOS or you might as well use an IDE drive.

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I seem to be a little confused as to what is the best mode to use for my sata hdd(s).
I have a newer 320gb sata drive, and an older 80b sata drive, and an older sata dvd burner.. I just got a new GA-990fxa-ud7 board, and trying to set my hdd's up using AHCI mode, but I'm having nothing but problems after doing so. First, I get random freezing when trying to open the 80gb drive to view files (currently have my backup on it from my old mobo). Second, I seem to have a lot of problems with my usb for some reason.. The mouse will randomly not work on startup (have the unplug and re-insert it to get it to work and sometimes only a reset will fix it.), and also having problems with my usb wireless adapter.. It's like 5 feet away from my router and it's capped at ~ 300-400KBps download speed.. It went up to 1.2MBps after installing or uninstalling a driver.. but I can't remember what I did.. lol. It was either when I un/installed the etron usb 3.0 driver, or the amd sb/usb/ahci driver The adpater is a bit older.. (belkin wireless g usb adpapter with latest driver).

I read that setting up a raid array should only be done with drives that have similar storage and speed specs.. So I'm guessing that's not a good idea.. But I'm wondering if I should be using the default "Native IDE", or the "AHCI" mode for my setup.. or should I put the older drive and dvd drive on sata5/6 and set those to ide, and have the newer hdd set to ahci? or keep them as-is (320gb (sata0 master) -- 80gb (sata0 slave) -- DVD-Burner (sata1 master))... Is it even worth using AHCI if I don't have a SSD?

edit: I have installed the latest amd ahci drivers from their site (12-10_vista_win7_win8_32-64_sb.exe), as mentioned.. and I did a fresh installation of win7 after switching to AHCI in the bios. (however, I install the ahci drivers after windows is installed.. I havn't tried adding the ahci driver during the installation.. is that a problem at all?)

edit 2: Also, I notices that while installing windows in IDE mode, the first loading bar loaded way faster while on ahci mode, and much much slower on the default "native ide".. however, during installation, on the "expanding files" portion, it seemed that the ide performed much faster, taking only like 5 minutes, while the ahci installation took more like 30 minutes.. very strange.. anyone?

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I understand being on a tight budget, trust me. Ha, typical Kingston, dosen't even says the timings.
Doing some diggin', they have to run with 1.65V to have 9-9-9 @ 1600MHz.

So you suggest not running it at 9-9-9-27 @ 1.65v? maybe lower (or raise) the timings and lower to voltage? I want to use 1600 if possible, unless that's going to be pushing it too far?
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EDIT: ¿Can't you use the pre-sets with E.O.C.P (XMP)?

I havn't even gotten that far.. I seem to be having a lot of problems with my usb wireless adapter.. And last night I spent hours trying to get the AHCI setting to work.. with little success.. Do you just use the pre-sets and multiplier to oc? I have a BE cpu.. but should I oc using a combination of clock speed and multi? or just use the multi and set it to 200x20 with 1600 pre-set ram?
Edited by NFleck - 12/31/12 at 12:38pm
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Anyone running this with 32GB of RAM? I am wanting to build my own virtual environment and was curious if anyone has any stability issues and what type of RAM you're using. Thanks!
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You can't change drivers after you've installed Windows easily. There are ways, though, if you Google, I've done it before. Matter of fact, here. LOL http://www.overclock.net/t/1227636/how-to-change-sata-modes-after-windows-7-installation


If you need the timings of your RAM use CPUz. It will tell you the SPD for your RAM. After that just set them manually in the BIOS. If you are still having problems run MEMTEST86+ through a loop or two.
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You can't change drivers after you've installed Windows easily. There are ways, though, if you Google, I've done it before. Matter of fact, here. LOL http://www.overclock.net/t/1227636/how-to-change-sata-modes-after-windows-7-installation
I just got this mobo, and I have nothing installed.. so reinstalling windows is not a problem.. I've done it like 5 times already since yesterday. That doesn't really have anything to do with my problem. Maybe try reading it again?

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If you need the timings of your RAM use CPUz. It will tell you the SPD for your RAM. After that just set them manually in the BIOS. If you are still having problems run MEMTEST86+ through a loop or two.
I know the timings. I'm not looking for my current timings..I just set them in the bios.. Why use cpu-z?

edit: This is what my SPD tab looks like:

Is it supposed to list the suggested timings and whatnot there?

I'm curious as to if the suggested timings of 9/9/9/24@1.65v are just this kit's maximum, or if that's the recommended operating speed.
I'm wondering if I should be using the suggested 9/9/9/27 @ 1.65v -- or if I should tone it down and go with say 9/9/9/24 or the default settings (11/11/11/24) @ 1.50v
Sorry if that wasn't clear in my post.

Also wondering if I should use the multiplier to oc my cpu, or use a combination of multi and clock speed.. in which case, I would probably have to change my ht link, and my dram timings and voltage.. I do have some knowledge of how to do it (http://www.overclock.net/t/366989/official-asus-m2n-sli-and-m2n32-sli-club/9690).. Just new to am3+ and Gigabyte.

Thanks for any help you guys can offer.
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I said is kinda crap that you need so much volts for that speed and latencies, but if you got no other choice, do it. But unless you are OC'ing your CPU and your CPU-NB, would make little difference if you run them @ 1333MHz 7-7-7 1.5V.

To avoid hassles, you gotta set the ACHI, and use the SATA ports 1-4, the 5-6 are for your like DVD-RW AND once is set that, you gotta make a clean install of Windows. Even though there is some "tweaks" to use Windows after you enable ACHI, they don't work as intended.
First solve all your other issues before even attention to CPU, specially make sure your RAM is stable.
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You can't change drivers after you've installed Windows easily. There are ways, though, if you Google, I've done it before. Matter of fact, here. LOL http://www.overclock.net/t/1227636/how-to-change-sata-modes-after-windows-7-installation
I just got this mobo, and I have nothing installed.. so reinstalling windows is not a problem.. I've done it like 5 times already since yesterday. That doesn't really have anything to do with my problem. Maybe try reading it again?

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If you need the timings of your RAM use CPUz. It will tell you the SPD for your RAM. After that just set them manually in the BIOS. If you are still having problems run MEMTEST86+ through a loop or two.
I know the timings. I'm not looking for my current timings..I just set them in the bios.. Why use cpu-z?

edit: This is what my SPD tab looks like:

Is it supposed to list the suggested timings and whatnot there?

I'm curious as to if the suggested timings of 9/9/9/24@1.65v are just this kit's maximum, or if that's the recommended operating speed.
I'm wondering if I should be using the suggested 9/9/9/27 @ 1.65v -- or if I should tone it down and go with say 9/9/9/24 or the default settings (11/11/11/24) @ 1.50v
Sorry if that wasn't clear in my post.

Also wondering if I should use the multiplier to oc my cpu, or use a combination of multi and clock speed.. in which case, I would probably have to change my ht link, and my dram timings and voltage.. I do have some knowledge of how to do it (http://www.overclock.net/t/366989/official-asus-m2n-sli-and-m2n32-sli-club/9690).. Just new to am3+ and Gigabyte.

Thanks for any help you guys can offer.

To answer the question about your kits speed. The speed that the kit is sold as is the maximum 'rated' and tested speed. In other words the speed that they guarantee it to operate at. There is most likey another 100-300Mhz of headroom.
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On CPU-Z with this MoBo's, the RAM sticks shot on slot 3 and 4.
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I said is kinda crap that you need so much volts for that speed and latencies, but if you got no other choice, do it. But unless you are OC'ing your CPU and your CPU-NB, would make little difference if you run them @ 1333MHz 7-7-7 1.5V.

To avoid hassles, you gotta set the ACHI, and use the SATA ports 1-4, the 5-6 are for your like DVD-RW AND once is set that, you gotta make a clean install of Windows. Even though there is some "tweaks" to use Windows after you enable ACHI, they don't work as intended.
First solve all your other issues before even attention to CPU, specially make sure your RAM is stable.
Isn't anyone reading my post.. Please click here. Lol. I Did do a fresh install after setting ahci.. I'm getting nothing but problems.. Now won't even detect the 80gb slave drive. Just cleared cmos and going to start over..
Are you saying to put my 320 and 80 on SATA0 and SATA1 with port 0-3 set ahci. Then put my dvdrw on SATA4 and leave it default ide?
Or should I set "sata port 4/5 type" to "as sata type" and just use ahci for all sata ports.. Otherwise what's the point of putting the SATA optical drive on port 4 if they're all ahci anyways..
Do my questions not make sense guys...? I'm asking here because I'm assuming you guys have experience with the 990fxa.. And hopefully the ud7 rev. 1.1
No one has experienced problems installing windows 7 ultimate x64 on a sata drove using ahci with this board? Should I even bother with ahci if I don't have an ssd? Please help
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Isn't anyone reading my post.. Please click here. Lol. I Did do a fresh install after setting ahci.. I'm getting nothing but problems.. Now won't even detect the 80gb slave drive. Just cleared cmos and going to start over..
Are you saying to put my 320 and 80 on SATA0 and SATA1 with port 0-3 set ahci. Then put my dvdrw on SATA4 and leave it default ide?
Or should I set "sata port 4/5 type" to "as sata type" and just use ahci for all sata ports.. Otherwise what's the point of putting the SATA optical drive on port 4 if they're all ahci anyways..
Do my questions not make sense guys...? I'm asking here because I'm assuming you guys have experience with the 990fxa.. And hopefully the ud7 rev. 1.1
No one has experienced problems installing windows 7 ultimate x64 on a sata drove using ahci with this board? Should I even bother with ahci if I don't have an ssd? Please help

Try a diferent version of Windows, maybe?
My SATA 1-4 are on AHCI, my SATA 5-6 are on IDE, otherwise my DVD-RW is not able to boot from CD's and so forth.
I have my SSD on SATA 1, my HDD's in SATA 2 and 3 and my DVD-RW in SATA 5.
If your HDD's are new ones, as in if they support AHCI, you should see a (albeit small) performance increase. There is no reason why not do so if supported by your hardware.
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Happy new year peeps! Thank you all for helping me with all my mishaps.
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